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I am thinking of getting a 4.7m centre console. The boats that tickle my fancy are the CC's from Scorpion, Maclay and Surtees (they say the can build the new 4.7 in a CC)

Any comments/advice ?
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....if you don't mind getting wet they are ok, do you take your partner fishing?, they hate getting wet! Unhappy Mac do their hulls in cc as well, very stable at rest.
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Wet & cold. No storage. They are great to fish from on nice warm windless days.

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Saw a new McLay 5m cc. It was slick and very p o r n o! Had plenty of storage under the front deck area and in the console. Would be a fantastic boat for doing salt water fly from.
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Read the coast to coast on the 4,7 surtees if i had of known i would not have got the stabi 459
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Thanks for the replies fellas! I have made up my mind on the size and layout I want and was hoping to get some response from owners or people who have been in some of the mentioned boats. Carbine, I have read that test and contacted Surtees straight away about building it as a CC. They say it is no problem. It seems like a very nice hull.

Bender, I have a 620 Rayglass and a 380 Stacer Seasprite. I far prefer the open Seasprite to fish from. It is very well fitted out and organised and storage is no problem. I very seldom fish with bait so do not need a lot of storage space.I plan to sell them both and go for something in between. I don't mind a bit of spray now and then and for my purposes the cabin on the Rayglass is a waste of space!
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get one!!...CC's are great! if i had money i would get one  family only come out in nice weather anyway.
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That's my thinking too!
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mate i went through what your going through now 4 years ago.the scorpion has a poor build quality.they seem to be almost as flat in the v as a dory.and when we test drove it it pouned.we ended up getting a 5.5m surtees cc.top boat .the 4.7 seems to be a cut off 5.5.good build.very dry stable at rest with the flooding keel.cant speak hyly enough of it.
As my wife catches bigger fish than me, does that make me a bad fisherman or a great skipper.......
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Yeah, I am definitely leaning towards the Surtees. I agree the deadrise on the Scorpion is a worry and the Surtees will probably hold it's value better too. Do you have some pics of your deck layout? I like the idea Brown has in another thread about a raised foredeck with storage space underneath. I would probably also go for a 60 fourstroke Yammie rather than the 40 Honda they fitted to the test boat. That 40 seems a bit marginal to me!
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seadoc,just bought 2x60 hp fs yamms got the mean deal.if you want can see if i can get you the same deal.will post some pics ..
As my wife catches bigger fish than me, does that make me a bad fisherman or a great skipper.......
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we got those clears made for the wet and cold days .they worked real well.80ltrs of fuel under floor.100ltrs in the base of cc.dry storage in cc ,screen folds down for towing and storage.mean boat.you can ring me for a chat on 021361824 if you want .cheers mike
As my wife catches bigger fish than me, does that make me a bad fisherman or a great skipper.......
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Hey, Mike, you are a legend! It looks like the Rayglass might be sold this weekend pending sea trails and then it is all systems go. I would be more than interested in the engine deal!
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Hi I got a 5.35 Scorpion C/C that is a beaut ride. Dont be put off by a moderate vee at the back cos C/C s ride much better than the cabin variants and have better speed for the same RPM which means more miles per litre. My boat is just 1 year old and has a great build quality, dry for a C/C, rides well and great fishability. Guys on the forum reckon the smaller Surtees are a wet boat.  
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Thanks Joker. Any chance of me having a look at your boat?
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Originally posted by tobez tobez wrote:

get one!!...CC's are great! if i had money i would get one  family only come out in nice weather anyway.
CC are great boats for fishing 360 degrees...
My missus comes out with me jigging in mine on ****ty days when the Oldies are looking from the beach thinking MAYBE or MAYBE NOTLOLDRESS FOR THE CONDITIONS...The faster you drive them the wetter you get and thats only on Windy days...
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You can't know much about boats if you are comparing a mac cc to a surtees. i have sold my mac and now own a 4.7 surtees no comparison at all. the mac is a wet boat wave thumping pig handling . the surtees is an awesome wave cutting very dry boat. very highly recomended to call a surtees dealer and atleast try one..., highly recomended ..you wount be wasting your time
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Thank you for the advice bigjafa. I think you are confusing a Mac with a Maclay. I certainly do not think I know everything about boats - that is why I asked fellow forum members for their opinion! I do agree with your choice though and will take delivery of a centre console 4.7 Surtees next Wednesday (my 8th boat)
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there is a good write-up of the Scorpion 470 in fishing news November edition.
 
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Hi Joker, yes, I read the write-up in the Fishing news. I decided in the end to order a Surtees and am driving down to Whakatane on friday to pick it up. Will keep in contact re the fishing trips!
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