I believe they're about equal (they didn't test plaits did they?). But I reckon the Bimini is a cinch to tie, perhaps just coz I'm used to it. Maybe a minute?
Interestingly, I saw no real evidence in those tests of longer biminis being weaker (ie only a smidgeon). I never could understand any reason why a longer one would be weaker. [Sam Mossman reported so]
Both great knots and believe they test within fractions of a percent of each other, personally prefer the bimini double but will tie a plait accosionally just for the sake of it. I also use the 'bimini knot' for attaching single line to a ball-bearing swivel, bulletproof out perform any swivel knot. I always 'taper' the first few rolls lightly (instead of strangling) on the return part of tying the bimini seems to reduce the angle the mainline exits the knot, never had one fail.
 Phecda wrote:Wish they'd tested cats paws. I've had some of them break, for no reason I can work out. That's on doubled line of course. |
| FarNorfOwnage wrote: Both great knots and believe they test within fractions of a percent of each other, personally prefer the bimini double but will tie a plait accosionally just for the sake of it. I also use the 'bimini knot' for attaching single line to a ball-bearing swivel, bulletproof out perform any swivel knot. I always 'taper' the first few rolls lightly (instead of strangling) on the return part of tying the bimini seems to reduce the angle the mainline exits the knot, never had one fail. |
On reflection Josh raised a good point. "24+kg line...bimini too bulky".
Currently my 37kg is all dacron and a bimini on dacron is small and neat enough. But earlier this year I was mucking with 37kg Momoi mono (.9mm) and got a bit stressed at the SIZE of the knot. With 4 diameters effectively, the knot must have been about 4mm in diameter. I assume a plait would be wide but flatter?
| Saltiga wrote: One thing when tying a double, once you have tied it, a thing to do is to pull the legs of the double apart, if the double is tyed well it wont go wonky if the double goes wonky cut it and start again. |
- it would be fair to say my knot tying skills are well below par - with the exception of my Uni knot which has served me well for years. As a result of not having done much game fishing, I haven't really tied too many doubles, so I have tried a few and can't tie a decent bimini to save myself. They twist up like a corkscrew after releasing the double - Any ideas what might be going crook? Also, how many turns do you give the double before forming the knot itself? Thanks PP. The business of no topshot is another issue, as you said.
The bimini is often used in tying braid isn't it? I didn't invent the 60 turns bit. And why would you say it is "designed for lines that stretch" (beyond that probably most knots may have been invented on stretchy line)
Yeah, splicing dacron is an excellent option (and 100%). Got some wrapped around my prop (bottom fishing with gamefishing rig
) cut it to recover the ends and re-splice to 100%! There is only one reason why I use a bimini rather than a spliced loop - it takes me a full lunar cycle to do a splice! (and I have never heard that the bimini is unsuitable on dacron or braid)
| Peter Pakula wrote: In braid a uniknot tied with both ends forming a double is actually much faster, easier and stronger. (use about 10 turns) many of the pros finish bimini's off with a form of uni knot) |
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