(sorted now cheers) Tiagra 50w or 80w.

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Newbie post... Feel free to move it.

I'm wanting to slowly get set up for Marlin (5.5m Surteees Hardtop). Will start with a couple of rod and reels and plan to add more and outriggers etc as the money comes in. I imagine it will be Stripeys if I'm lucky...with plenty to learn :)

I'm looking at getting a couple of Tiagra sets? Should I go 24kg (50 wides) or 36kg set ups (80 wides)?

Or even 80+braid with mono top shot on 50w's? 

Any others recommendations on gear to get me started? Two rod/reels and I'm happy to buy good gear but hate replacing things early from growing out of them. With that in mind and where things are heading with Gamefishing what would you buy?

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i would go 50 wides. when i started i brought a mixture, 2x50w, 2x80w and a tld50

the tld50 has more marlin to its name than any of the others so another option at around half the cost

go for outriggers, i would go for 50 wides ... or tld 50s and spend the money on outriggers you save, as you say you can always go braid and top shot the 50 wides

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Go 80 . 37kg line obviously stronger and you never know when u mite get something realy big on . Not eady trying to work a dead blue off the bottom with 24 ! I went 24 when i setup for standup thinking they wiuld be easier to handle but affter using 80s on standup they are just the same as theres not realy much weight to lift if your harness is setup right .
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80s good but quite big for stand up. I've gone 50's spooled with braid and a top shot of 80lb mono, best of both worlds in my opinion. I did get the reels blue printed by swordfish Steve to handle the extra drag settings. Depends if you are concerned about records/ competition s though, don't think braid is igfa but I'm not worried about those, just enjoy catching fish.
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Man buy talicas. But 50s are heaps. Some colapsable outriggers will work well on ur surtees.5.5
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50wide tiagras on 24 kg are better than your TLD 50 or equivalent on big marlin. 80s and 80ws for blues. I have both you don't really want a blue on a standard 50 but a 50wide tiagra would give you good shot on a blue if line is good and skipper is on to it. You need capacity to handle big runs before you ever get to line weight if you need to lift one.:
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Cheers guys. Appreciate all this. 
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Nah, Penn mate
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Blues on 50s are easily do-able. You have a small manoeuvrable boat....drive the boat to the fish. 
Braid and topshot gives you loads of line capacity
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Why can't you catch blues on a 50W? Pretty sure people have caught broadies as well as blues on tld50s (one blue off whangarei this month I believe?) I would personally rather have outriggers and 4-5 x tld 50s onboard as opposed to 2 or 3 80w
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when i first started i went all out and bought 4 80's. 
a couple of years a go i traded 2 of them in for 50's. 
as the guy before said if you aren't gonna fish comps then dont worry about mono and go for braid/hollowcore.
swordfish steve can upgrade drags on penn 50s to get more out of them.
80's are heavy and a pain in the arse to store, transport, carry etc ... but they do look mean
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the thing about 80's is that your only ever going to use them trolling. where as a 50 or maybe even better a 30 with braid (to get the line capacity), you could use for kings or puka. 
for guys like me who might only do 10-15 days trolling a year, i hate having all this money tied up in something that doesnt get used that often.
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fished 80w for 2 seasons very heavy setups bit of overkill for stripeys changed to 50w with 37 kilo braid and mono topshot great to use on stripeys and still have the same amount of line as a 80 incase the big girl jumps on 
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I agree with the 50W point of view.
Even 15 kg is easy-peasy for stripies.  I've caught over 30 stripies and seen, perhaps, 200+ marlin and maybe struck 1 blue.
I have 3 x 50w, one with 600 M of braid + 600 M of 37 kg mono (Makaira reel, might reverse that line but it's been a fish catcher), another Makaira with 1500 M of 60 lb braid and a Duel (my old warhorse) with 1500 m of 37 braid - all used for standup.
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2x 50w, fully loaded with braid, to wind on leader, simple easy effective lightweight and mega line capacity.
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Awesome. Stoked with all the advice. 

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I have 5 x 80w Tiagras on a 6.5m ally and use on both coasts and have had times we have hooked up and been very thankful we ran 80w's but have just recently bought 4 x 30w LRS and running 80lbs Daiwa Boat Braid and 75m of 50lbs topshot ... haven't been run yet but will be very soon ... hope I dont regret it LOL
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Agree the 80w are bulky to store but they also give a level of comfort when running along the 500m line behind the Mercs - I dont have any problem with the weight fishing Stand Up
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Get the 50w Tiagra LRS/Talica 50  or similar reels and go braid or hollow braid then mono topshot. Or you can look for some second hand standard shimano or Penn 50 wides and get Swordfishsteve to pimp the drags. You'll get as much stopping power as an 80 and will as much 80lb line on there as an 80w which sorts your capacity issue ( effectively an 80w reel ). plus I imagine from a small trailer boat 50s would a lot more practical taking up less room, not so bulky to handle, would be a heap less weight which in turn also helps your boat and crews efficiency.
 
Fishing stand up and green crew or novice fishos would be a lot easier with the 50s especially when it comes to the end game and if the angler needs to take evasive action with the gear and fish diving under the boat etc.
 
For your scenario on a trailer boat go the pimped 50s bro Cool Thumbs Up
 
 
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Don't want high jack the thread but - next question.
What rod would you guys pair a tld50 to if its going to serve a dual purpose of game and bottom fishing ?
Full roller or roller tip ?

I'm going to dig my short arms into my deep pockets and gear up a bit better for this season. Have to buy 3 sets of gear.
cheers, r
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