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Originally posted by The Badger The Badger wrote:

 
Only problem with JB is that it gets harder to work with after it has been used a while. It is very hard to open up to let the splicing needle inside, hence why I'm only getting about 25cm in.
 

Myself and friends have had issues with splicing JB in the past but found most of these were down to poor splicing technique. If done incorrectly the braid will tighten up soon after beginning the splice and be impossible to continue. 

May sound stupid but try pushing the braid over the needle, not the needle through the braid. Have done all manner of splice connections in #40 through 130#JB and never had any probs since doing this, no matter how well used the braid is.

if it's not binding but just tight try running a smaller needle without anything attached up through the braid to loosen it before performing the splice
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Why would you want 100lb when the JB 60 hollow abs is 90lbs? Kinda of hardcase that Chris is the NZ agent and yet most people order it from overseas.
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Out of curiousity how do you know how much Chris W sells? How do you know how much is purchased from overseas? and doesnt Swordfish steve also sell it in NZ?



The ratioanle for JB 100 over 80 might be spool capacity with the JB 100 having a smaller diameter
0.457 for 80 where as 0.433 for the 100.
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jb hollow is the shizzy, got my 100lb from chris wong on here at bcs enterprises
 
the 100lb jb hollow is thinner diameter than the 80lb other brand I had previously and it casts really well.
 
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Just thinking 60kg braid is a bit OTT for these applications, isn't it?


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I dont know what application Johno has in mind?

Personally speaking I have a few different rigs for different jobs. From what I gather a lot of acomplished anglers who regularly target big fish use P.E 10, but I do hear what ya saying regarding the merits of using a line with a breaking strain well above what the rod and reel can handle.
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One of the main factors is durability, casting day in day out thin line wears out, 60 and 100ilb JB is amazing braid and lasts for a long long time, if you get a bad section in the braid then splice a new section on, do not throw away the rest of the line, splicing is easy as Josh W says. We use it for top water, jigging and backing on all our game reels, making small wind on leaders and end connections on our saltwater fly lines, 60 and 100lb covers everything but its also nice to have a bit of 130lb JB lying around so you can splice it into the 60 or 100lb braid if you want to use a 130lb topshot.

Here is a little trick for you, when splicing mono into the braid, instead of whippng the end down with waxed floss or braid use the tag end of the 60 or 100, do one half hitch with tag end on the mono then do alternate half hitches back down the braid pulling tight (about 8) then finish off the knot with a finishing knot as you would do with a bimini twist, rub some glue into the knot and done, will last for a long time, small compact knot (about 10mm long). We use this on finishing our splices on our backing to our game reels, and connections on our fly lines and where ever we splice mono into 100lb braid or less, been using it on our fly lines for a while now and have not had to replace a connection splice due to this failing and that says a lot if you saw my casting
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Thanks for the tip's guy's. Very helpful.
I've been using hollow braid for a couple of years now and am convinced it is the way to go. Splicing produces the best braid to leader connection possible. 100% knot strength. Awesome for casting and much easier than tying FG or PR knots. That whipping technique Tony mentioned above is even simpler again.
 
Also, the ability to top shot if you happen to loose some braid is another huge avantage over solid braid. I'm really surprised the jigging fraternity haven't cottoned onto it quite as much.
 
One thing that is surprising is the lack of uptake in NZ of Hollow Braid. Very few retailers / Distributors stock it. I am told that Composite Developments are actually dropping the Tuf Line Guides Choice from their product range. Why on earth Douglas Johnson doesn't distribute the Power Pro Hollow Ace here is a mystery to me. It is only marginally earer than the normal Power Pro overseas. And the retailers wonder why so many fishos buy tackle off overseas internet retailers. 
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I have used and enthused over JB Hollow for years now.  Like Badger says, difficult to understand why the slow uptake of JB braid, even the solid is very good.  There is something about old school US made braid that keeps it utterly reliable which is the most anyone could ask for.
JB100 hollow is a 12 carrier braid whereas the 80lb hollow is 16 carrier.  This is the reason why 80lb is slightly thicker than 100lb hollow and is easier to splice than any of the 12 carrier hollow braids.  80lb hollow is also more expensive.
 
 
The main reason why it is not available through NZ retailers is because US retailers are buying directly from JB and are happy with small profit margins.   NZ retailers simply cannot compete.
 
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Chris is it also correct that the 80lb jb has a higher actual breaking strain than the 100lb? Or am I mistaken?
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Correct Josh, depending on batches JB 80 hollow tests anywhere from 120-140lb BS while 100lb JB normally tests under 120lb BS
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