Which size bilge pump

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Looking to fit a new pump in my 6.0 mtr tinny. What size pump would be recommend for this size boat?
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I'm also 6mtrs, however I'm restricted by the available underfloor height due to a 300 litre fuel tank, so I run 2x 1100 gph tmk units and two outlets from the Centre undefloor well. The two side bilge are sealed buoyancy tanks.
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Can you have too big of a bilge pump?
1 situation where big is better I say
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Maybe... If sucks up too much too fast may tend to pick up a lot of air .. and actual water volume reduced. Would only work at full capacity if have a foot or sp of water in the bulge.

 Just a thought..
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I have a 6m tinny and I have a 1,000gph TMC 'heavy duty' bilge pump as the main pump.  It's on a blue sure bail float switch.

The 1,000gph seems to be a good size for general bilge pump work.  It will keep up with a 1 inch hole (e.g. bung left out Embarrassed) comfortably.  My boat has a grid structure with limber holes so the pump is servicing the entire bilge.

Each outboard produces up to 12A charge and the pump draws 6A so that seemed an appropriate balance.  Also has a 28mm outlet, which allows much more water to be moved than the 19mm common on small pumps.




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Originally posted by Steps Steps wrote:

Maybe... If sucks up too much too fast may tend to pick up a lot of air .. and actual water volume reduced. Would only work at full capacity if have a foot or sp of water in the bulge.

 Just a thought..

Thats defnitly one of those comments you read, that sees your head turning rapidly from side to side, finished with a hand palm to the forehead.

The pump will only suck air, AFTER the water ( or majority of it ) has been pumped out..If its located appropiately and sucks air........its done its job


Go as big as is practical for the space available and electrical capacity. Two is better, on seperate fused circuits..... 

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def love the float switch idea.  makes for alot less hassle

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Originally posted by MikeAqua MikeAqua wrote:

Also has a 28mm outlet, which allows much more water to be moved than the 19mm common on small pumps.

Wise words!   These type of pumps produce very little head (pressure) so the height at which the outlet is above the water its pumping and the restriction in discharge (discharge pipe diameter) have a huge amount of influence on the pumps ability to pump out your bilge.  

28mm over 19mm outlet pipe is a huge advantage and mounting the discharge point where its as low as possible, but wont take much slop back down it will ensure you minimize the impacts. 

Before installing your pump, drop it in a bucket of water and turn it on.  Now lift  the discharge pipe up to chest height. you will be quite shocked as the reduction in flow when they have some head to push.
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Biggest pump possible. The smaller the boat the more water you need to get out quickly. Advise from Burnsco friends
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Originally posted by Fraser Hocks Fraser Hocks wrote:



28mm over 19mm outlet pipe is a huge advantage and mounting the discharge point where its as low as possible, but wont take much slop back down it will ensure you minimize the impacts. 



You can install it so the discharge pipe runs to high point and then down to a lower outlet. This reduces head, but increases surface friction due to the longer pipe.
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The big question is, how much water is being taken onboard and why?
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Thats defnitly one of those comments you read, that sees your head turning rapidly from side to side, finished with a hand palm to the forehead.

 Well a few yrs back was messing/ using using a high volume bulge pump to establish required flow rate for a fish pond....
It was placed in an artificial stream....re circulating .. not too different to sitting in a bilge.....because it was sucking so much the water level dropped down to the point where it could not flow to the water holding area where the pump was fat enough. Was pumping a mixture air and water.

Very often there are drain holes and beams that restrict water flow to the pump in many bilges.. not to dissimilar to the artificial stream... and the bilge in our boat
 


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