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Right-I've been down all sorts of roads trying to find a protective coat of some sort for my new boat. I've researched all sorts from paint to Nyalic to Nanoclear and unfortunately all of these are either too expensive or they are a problem to get except for paint here in Taranaki. Paint is my last preferred option.
Has anyone gone down the Vinyl Wrap path? I've watched a few vids and to me this could be the answer especially to have it applied before the ali goes into the water and tarnishes.
Thoughts anyone?
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I looked at this (and repainting) ... vinyl is no panacea for alloy.
If water gets underneath vinyl on alloy you have the potential for crevice corrosion.  You need to be sure the alloy is bone dry before applying vinyl and you have to be disciplined with checking and repairing (easy to patch).
Some people recommend to at least prime before applying vinyl to seal the alloy.


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I've got a 6mtr boat that we vinyl wrapped. I own a sign business so this was the easiest way to get a coloured hull for me. When I purchased the boat new the company didn't want to let it out of the factory without at least nylac despite my arguing it didn't need it as the vinyl would give the protection. I caved in the end and let them apply nylac. I still don't believe it's necessary - if you peel off a set of graphics from an old Ali boat the Ali underneath is like new. We see this a bit at work where we are asked to replace damaged or old graphics.
I also covered the whole sides of my vinyl wrap with stone guard as well for added protection. A couple of years ago we had a bit of an accident with the boat and had to replace graphics on one side. This was a simple process of peeling off the old vinyl and applying new. The boat was in and out of the shop in 4 hours. we didn't put the stone guard back on and to be honest, wouldn't both with it again.
Things you need to know if you are considering wrapping. DON'T use the Easy Apply films that are used on most vehicle wraps. They will fall off due to the way the adhesive is applied to the back of the vinyl - they just don't have enough stick to handle the pressure of water trying to get up underneath. They also aren't warranted for boats where graphic is in the water.
Make sure your applicator uses Edge Sealer on any edges where the water will try and wil try and get under vinyl - such as along water line.
Don't expect vinyl to be as hard wearing as paint, but don't expect it to be as expensive as paint and a lot easier to replace if damaged, or you just want a colour change.
Petrol can eat vinyl too, so be careful with that, although you can get petrol resistant laminates to protect agains this if that's a concern

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I did a Vinyl wrap, it's fantastic, much more durable than paint IMO and a hell of a lot cheaper without the associated under-paint-bubbles that WILL occur! Stands up to sinker impact better. Still mint after 3 years, I had a sign company apply wet in my garage for under $500, looked very straight forward, but my boats only 4.5m. There was two vinyl types, can't remember which it was, but I have zero fading after lots of use.
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Check out these this guy:


He did the stripes and waterline on my Fibreglass boat 2 years ago, but he also does a lot of ali boats and full wraps.
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Thanks Salty-these guys are the ones I'm talking to. Yes there are a few different grades of this stuff on offer and yes I'm looking at the 3M grade which is the top marine grade. Plus they seal the edges at installation. And it is spot repairable if it gets nicked.
I love the idea of this stuff not being permanent i.e. after a time if you get sick of it or the vinyl gets tired you just heat treat it off and replace it, and you can also choose a colour if you wish.
At the moment I'm waiting for more info back from them as to where they do it, what conditions are needed to fit it etc.
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Denny Boy I did the same as you, researched all the options for coating my boat.  I have had a boat previously which had nyalic on, it looked great, but did wear off in high use areas and got eaten off with fuel.  On another boat I then went down the nano-clear option but had a very bad experience, not through the product but as a result of an incompetent applicator.
 
I have just had my new boat wrapped, I do not like the look of alloy once it starts oxidizing and has the water marks staining it, so I ended up wrapping the entire boat - cabin, hull, and all the sides/seats inside.  It has come up fantastic, looks just like a paint job and like mentioned above sections can be replaced in time if required.  I have not really used the boat yet so cannot comment on durability but it has all been edge sealed. 
 
 
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I am considering it as an alternative to paint, as I have some cracking of the gel coat, and apparently if you paint over those cracks, they really appear and loom worse.
you can't fix an idiot with duct tape, but it does muffle them for a while...
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My boat was painted in 1987. It has bubbles as you note but only where SS fittings were originally put in with no duralac or similar.  No bubbles anywhere else.

Originally posted by flyfisher flyfisher wrote:

I did a Vinyl wrap, it's fantastic, much more durable than paint IMO and a hell of a lot cheaper without the associated under-paint-bubbles that WILL occur! Stands up to sinker impact better. Still mint after 3 years, I had a sign company apply wet in my garage for under $500, looked very straight forward, but my boats only 4.5m. There was two vinyl types, can't remember which it was, but I have zero fading after lots of use.
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Awesome-thanks Lonestar! Believe it or not mine's the same boat just about complete at Senator now so just the timely info I needed. I'm almost sold on this wrap now as the agents actually travel the country to install it. Makes it a lot easier than towing the boat 400 miles there and back to get other types of protection done. Hope you enjoy your Senator, I'm really looking forward to mine. Incidentally what was your all up cost for the wrap?
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Had ours done through Brave Designs - they also did the BAF boat. They know what they're doing and did a great job. Definitely the go over paint. In saying that, a bit of rough jetty/rope work has damaged a small patch up front. Will get a replacement bit and sort it. Should be dead easy.
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I really like the graphics on the vinyl wrap .how much for a fc430 for just the sides and stern?or does it depend on the graphics?
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Originally posted by Lone Star Lone Star wrote:

Denny Boy I did the same as you, researched all the options for coating my boat.  I have had a boat previously which had nyalic on, it looked great, but did wear off in high use areas and got eaten off with fuel.  On another boat I then went down the nano-clear option but had a very bad experience, not through the product but as a result of an incompetent applicator.
 
I have just had my new boat wrapped, I do not like the look of alloy once it starts oxidizing and has the water marks staining it, so I ended up wrapping the entire boat - cabin, hull, and all the sides/seats inside.  It has come up fantastic, looks just like a paint job and like mentioned above sections can be replaced in time if required.  I have not really used the boat yet so cannot comment on durability but it has all been edge sealed. 
 
 
Incidentally Lonestar is that a clear wrap on your boat or a silver colour wrap? I wanted a clear on mine but apparently there isn't an option for this in the vinyl wrap. Instead they quoted me a twice-the-price hexis clear film which is self-healing, seemingly fantastic for small dings scratches etc as somehow it mends itself?? 
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Hey Denny Boy it is a silver wrap.  I wanted to get as close to nyalic/nano-clear look as I could and it has come up really good.  It looks like it has been painted and when it was being fitted out it fooled a lot of people who actually thought it had been sprayed.  I have been toying with the idea of putting stoneguard on the sides from the back of the boat up to the first weld, above and below the rub bar, but that is not cheap that stuff, but I guess it will protect the investment of the wrapping. 
my entire boat wrap (roof, cabin, pontoons, stern, side pockets, seats, bunks) and the decals cost me $3500 - it is the 650 model.
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Now you've sparked off more options and decisions Lone Star, thanks, I think. The internal graphics wrap, which I hadn't considered previously could be custom design, colour...and on a well used boat such as mine could transform the internal look completely.
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That's nice.  Looks like fresh alloy.

Stones are a pain towing anywhere from Nelson, aren't they.  If I was building a new boat,  I would seriously consider building stone protection into the trailer.

Originally posted by Lone Star Lone Star wrote:

... it is a silver wrap ...
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