Trailer Extension Hitch - Ideas?

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    Posted: 08 May 2014 at 6:20pm
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Hi All,

Well, the time has come whereby the Territory (4wd) is up for sale.
It looks like it will be replaced with something a little more practical (station wagon) and as such, I don't see a specific tow vehicle being bought either.

This has had me thinking, and googling....

Has anyone made/bought an extendable tow hitch that you hook up when your at the ramp? Having looked at the weights and the way it puts pressure on the trailer, I don't think there are too many things to worry about..
I have come across this website, and am contemplating drawing up plans of something similar http://xtend-a-hitchnorthwest.com/

I've put a photo in below, so what are everyone's thoughts? Do-able? Or wasting my time?..
 
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Blackdog cat do a cool folding extension bar. It folds back towards the mudguard when towing as per normal
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Sounds like a bit of a hassle. Tow to ramp, take trailer off, attach extension, put back on vehicle, launch, then reverse it all after fishing. Why do you need to be so far from the trailer when launching, is it a very shallow ramp?
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What we are doing is engineering a swing mount to hold a spare tyre which can also act as a jockey wheel. Specifically this is for beach launching - Oreti Beach near Invercargill is very flat - We also have a small boat, so pushing it by hand is not a big issue. I did consider a extendable drawbar, but as Kevin said, seemed like a hassle. 

Once ours is built it would be: Tow to ramp, drop third wheel, unhitch trailer, push into surf for launch, reverse for retrieval, using a snatch strap to get loaded trailer out of surf if necessary. Has the added bonus of launching at the beach bow first so you dont have to worry about turning boat in surf.

I posted a picture of what we are going to make in 'The Pontoon Club' thread.
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G,day Johnny, I have a very similar thing to your photo on my trailer except it is the main drawbar which is pinned. Remove the pin, extend the bar and re-pin at the desired length. very simple and can put up photos if you want..
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this was on the mudgway trailers website




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My farther inlaw had one on his bonito many years ago, worked real well. Used it down at manly at low tide. His one wasn't mounted permanent, it had a toe ball half way along on top of the box section that goes into the trailer coupling, then a a channel that came up under the trailer with a pin through it.
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When I had my boat back in the 70s and 1/2 moon bay ramp just opened, it was pretty steep.
4x4s where not really avalible as they are today

no way could a lot of old EH holdens/ falcons get a grip .....and most still had cross plys to.
So we would back the trailers down, unhitch, roll back to the boat....
while doing that , driver would, pull the tow rope/ strope out of the trunk...one end over the tow ball , other on the trailer....
boat on... then tow the trailer up the ramp, and clear in the car park.

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Hi All,

The main reason the extra length is required/needed.
We launch from beaches 60% of the time, and then there are the shallow boat ramps (omaha etc) that we go to regularly. The 4WD has been great, but even that has had some serious water damage and I don't think we want much, if any salt water going all over the brakes etc of this new wagon.

We have used tow ropes to pull her out on occasion, but I thought if a simple extension could be made (say 6-8 foot) it would make launching a breeze, and a small amount of time to pay given the $$ saved on the car.

That swinging design by mudgway trailers looks good, as well as the one that's permanently fitted below the front of the trailer....


Given the new vehicle will be a lot lower, it's something I want to tinker with over winter and see how well it works before next summer...

Not sure on cost yet, but a permanently fixed extension seems the best solution for me...
I'm going to get the cad software out and start tinkering with a design that hopefully a welder can throw together in an afternoon
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I'm going to get the cad software out and start tinkering with a design that hopefully a welder can throw together in an afternoon

Hmm... gone are the days of a pencil paper and a sketch of the setup T_B has a pic of....
hand to the engineers , cut out and weld up????
Its a bloody simple extension , not An appllo spaceship.. it a "welder "cant do it from a basic sketch I would defiantly be going somewhere else....
Really it would be simple to 'kitset it'
draw up the bits, head off to the local steel supply shop  the cut to measure...
hire a mig for the morning and weld it up....
Or buy a 160 amp mig with gas ...basically that come fre because the cost to weld up will be about the cost of a welder or a bit more.
And mig welding doesnt require a Phd.. basically turn the feed down , turn the heat up so dont quite blow holes, take your time...done.

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The extenda hitch you show above is actual not a bad idea. I will be very interested to see what you come up with.
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I think Catchit's solution sounds great if you can accommodate it in your existing trailer. Undo the pin and pull forward to extend, put pin back in and launch. Take pin out and reverse to shorten it when you're done -bloody brilliant!
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Originally posted by Kevin.S Kevin.S wrote:

I think Catchit's solution sounds great if you can accommodate it in your existing trailer. Undo the pin and pull forward to extend, put pin back in and launch. Take pin out and reverse to shorten it when you're done -bloody brilliant!


+1.  I've seen one of these in use and they are very efficient.  The only question is can you get one long enough.
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Completely agree Kevin!,
Catchit's sounds brilliant! - would you be able to throw up some pics mate?

having looked at my trailer, I don't think I could modify it to have a single link, so will probably need to bolt this one on underneath
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Originally posted by Catchit Catchit wrote:

G,day Johnny, I have a very similar thing to your photo on my trailer except it is the main drawbar which is pinned. Remove the pin, extend the bar and re-pin at the desired length. very simple and can put up photos if you want..

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I question if the "6 to 8 foot" extension will be enough to keep your car dry when beach launching. Check this out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fskmAjHmVA - it's where i got the idea for the swing mount spare/beach launching wheel for my trailer.
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Southern_jez - I do love that jockey/third front wheel on the trailer.
Don't get me wrong, I think that is extremely useful at some of the places I launch. And is something I am contemplating adding onto this design.

At the same time, I think if I could extend the trailer tongue (length tbc) it would be far easier. The main reason I say that, is that we have a 6m boat, which isn't light at the best of times. Most of the gradient ramps we use seem ok, but there are some where that extra length would go a long way in keeping the car dry as well as not having two tonnes rolling freely down the ramp.
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Good jockey wheel and a rope ,way quicker and less parts to loose
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Is there any reason why the extension can't be sleeved with a securing pin rather than hinged?  This would save having two tow couplings etc.  Trailer would always be attached to vehicle so no run aways. 
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