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    Posted: 02 Aug 2013 at 8:27pm
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So, with the snapper SNA1 thing, can we have a spearo's only discussion on it?
Personally, I don't give a flick if we end up with a limit of 3 if we rebuild to 40% ( which actually is an amazingly ambitious target Bo!)
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The day I actually shoot 3 snapper....
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The day I actually see 3 snapper....
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Wouldn't mind a cut to the snapper daily bag limit, or the king daily bag limit actually
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^ I'm with Tab47. Ain't no one shoots 20 fish in a day.

It would be nice to have the scallop limit increased a bit though Thumbs Up
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^Im with U'J. 20 scallops is hardly a mouthful.
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Yeah 3 snapper is plenty as lets not forget we can get other species eg butters, jds etc. I definitely agree with tab for reducing kingies quota
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Definatley increase scallops limit and decrease paua size...
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I dont mind cutting the limit, but I think it should apply to commercial too
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I would personally like to see the snapper daily bag limit reduced to 5 or 6 with an increase in the minimum size to say 32cm. I also think that the proposal needs to include a cut to commercial catch, I think it will piss a bunch of recreational fishers off reducing the daily bag limit by two thirds and leaving the commercial quota untouched. Surely if there is a need to reduce take in order to maintain sustainability or increase the populations then the comm guys need to take a hit? That said nothing in this world is fair so maybe they just need to HTFU and let the comm guys keep paying MPI salaries while they have to cut their numbers because the government makes no money off them. 

I have never shot more than four snapper in a day and don't think I would ever feel the need to. More snapper left swimming has to be a good thing in my books.
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Daily Bag Limits:
Firstly IMHO 9 snapper in one day is way too much no matter how they are caught.

That being said the question I have with small daily bag limits is the balance between those that go out and catch (for example) 2 fish every fortnight - 100 or so fish a year - and those that manage to get out, say, once a month and take 4 fish each time for total of 50 or so fish a year.  Or for a more extreme comparison those that get out 3 times a year and take 9 fish each time.

Who has the biggest impact on a fishery?  Why should the 3 times a year fisher be penalised?

Balance between Comm and Rec
From what I have seen the proposals from MPI seem to be weighted in favour of the Comms keeping their TACC at the current level and they say the fishery is recovering too.  Shouldn't there be a balance between Comm and Rec changes?  This is tricky as the number of Rec fishers hitting SNA1 has increased significantly since 1997.




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I agree, reduced commercial quotas. 
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I'd be happy with:

Rec. cut to 5
Com TACC cut by 20%
Size increased to 30cm for both
Restricted fishing seasons for designated spawning areas (just during Dec and Jan)
Line fishing only in designated spawning grounds (No trawlers)
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i recon one kingy is heaps and up the snapper size limit to 32 like big pun says and drop it to 5.and sort out the comm side of things drop the amount they can take and up the size they can take and if they get caught dumping fish they should lose their quota (on a three strikes sort of scheme )
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40% B0 is very cool. Haven't looked at the options properly, other than the rhetoric online, to be honest and how they propose to get there. Be an interesting read. TSw have they used the most recent big rec survey results?

3 would destroy charter operators. For me personally it is not an issue.
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Snapper proposal is on the right track. Maybe rec vs comm should be 50/50 but you can't just keep pushing the rec portion up as population grows, so it's got to be proportionally allocated at some point. 40% biomass across a bunch of species would be feckin' amazing. I'd wear big daily limit reductions to achieve that. To be honest the ranting and wailing in the fishos' thread(s) mostly just looks like a shameful abdication of responsibility Ouch
 
Not sure on the spawning protection thing. Rationale, leatherjacket?
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Don't know about you Mullins but I don't want to get dragged into a big net and crushed to death while trying to get my end away
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Of course you can have that debate TSW. I hope you don't get a pile of 'idiot stickers' trying to hijack your thread ...
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^ heaven forbid

Unprotected spawning is the way to go if you want population growth bigpun
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I'm yet to come to trips with it all.... But I did have an opportunity today to address the issue...
I offered in a negotiation today to reduce their rent by $3 k on a site if they shelve 20% of their SNA1 to assist the rebuild. SAN yet to respond. If that doesn't work I will threaten to stop buying fillet o fish burgers.i a sure this will be as effective as those making submissions.
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