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Whats everybody's opinion of the best alloy boat in the 6 to 7 metre size length and why.                                                                                   Wanting to upsize and going to check out the various models at the boat show.                                                                                                                Needs to be capable of bar crossings, rough seas and game fishing, as well as inshore stuff.

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I like the Senator 680 although there are obviously heaps of models nowadays to choose from. Huge reserve buoyancy, lots of storage for a pontoon boat and best of all stable as. I fish some real fat bastar** off my Stabi 630 and we often all end up hanging over the side untangling pukas in rough seas down here of Welly and u dont give it a second thought. Try doing it in a normal monohull and it doesn't take too long to get the "big fright".    Senator 780 Widebody is my dreamboat. Could fit all the fat buggers on that one no worries! 
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I have a Surtees 6.7 and am very happy with it, you wont find a boat with a better ride. I you are looking a one I would be happy to take you out for a ride.
But it is not my drem boat. If i had the money would have a 7-7.5 m Whitepointer.
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Mclay 680...go and look at one
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I remember a similar thread here a few years ago and recall someone stating that  "all boats come with rose tinted glasses" ie whatever the owner has becomes the "best" boat on the water. all boats have their good and bad points .my advice is to go out in as many boats as you can in the conditions you normally fish in, make your decision on your own requirements, and don't compromise.  having said all that and wearing my rose tinted glasses i can't/wont  have any other boat but a pontoon model ie senator.
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why not?
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The one you can afford.

Nobody has ever come up with a great idea after a second bottle of water.


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In my experience, usually the best one is the one you CAN"T afford!
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Start with the reality check i.e. physically write down what you want and think you want to do with the boat - the boat design will need to fit that criteria. Also this eliminates getting something that you don't use e.g. I don't go wakeboarding, so all the b.s. around that is not a selling point for me, I don't dive, I usually fish solo, can't stand any clutter in the cockpit, mostly used for fast fishing sessions within an hour from home etc etc. It's the usage situation that should determine what is ideal for you.

 
In my case a 6.1m Surtees Barcrusher, near perfect for my needs Thumbs%20Up
 
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Espresso makes some great points.  Before you can choose a boat you need to know what you think you are going to use it for most of the time, what your budget is, then fit it together.
    Bar crossings would mean heaps of power, a hardtop, grab rails and a self draining cockpit.
    Rough Seas means you should get a soft riding, well constructed boat as the constant stress is hard on joints.  You should also look at passenger comfort if you intend on doing long rough water trips.
    Game fishing is just too big to look at in a short post but good vision, a clear unobstructed cockpit, good mounting points for poles and economy are all important.
    Inshore fishing usually means room to store your catch, 4 guys to fish, decent bait station, livebait tank.
    Put all these in a boat and you'll start finding the problem of compromises!  Don't forget you need to tow it so you vehicle needs to be big enough or upgraded.
     Good luck shopping.
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Indeed he does. When choosing my new boat, I started with a simple parameter: it had to be towable by my existing vehicle. therefore, 1700kg-ish.
 
I didn't want to spend too much but I did want a new four stroke outboard.
 
I took 2 years of looking and eventually found something that would do the trick. Like all boats its a compromise, but I'm happy with where I've ended up.
 
The key was starting with known parameters rather than wandering around waiting for something to take my fancy.
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Reel Boats are made from fiberglass.
I want a big one
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thats a brave statement, why?
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Reel boats may be made from fibreglass.
But real boats are made from alloy.
Nobody has ever come up with a great idea after a second bottle of water.


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like i said fishfinda -  680 mclay...please call into orams fri thru tuesday and ill show you what i mean - out of the 315 boats in the stack its the one i would have hands down.
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Good call Tobez. Make a seriously good boat, McLay.
Nobody has ever come up with a great idea after a second bottle of water.


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safety first...pontoons.2 kids would still be alive if the father had chosen a pontoon boat
economy...fourstroke even better 2 of them pref yamaha with stainless props of course
hard top best in rough stuff but harder to see at night
bigger fuel tank the better
bunks up front big enuf to sleep
lock up wheelhouse good option, sliding side windows bonus too
have a hgood look around at the boatshow and if you go new the manufacturers should be able to deck out the boat of your choice  with whatever options you ask for....extra rod holders....livebait tank...shelve here ,canholder there...solid baitstation basically anything thats gonna be easier to fit from new  rather than try and add on later get it done.a good coat of nyalic  right from the word go is also a good move as without it the alloy wil llose its new gloss in the years to come and the "shiny"  bits help with the gamfishin(well i reckon anyway!)good luck with your choice and if you want a testdrive in a senator giz a pm
 
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Originally posted by Ski Ski wrote:

safety first...pontoons.2 kids would still be alive if the father had chosen a pontoon boat


Or even a normal alloy hull with positve floatation.
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EZONOD - I am with you. If I had to own a 6 - 7 meter boat I would go glass. I throughly enjoy the ride of a glass boat, the smell of new fiberglass and the comfort you feel in a quality glass craft. But my resaons arent the same as everyone elses. Obvious starting point would be Haines Hunter.

Good mate just went through the process of buying one. He and I test drove a number of brands to see how they suited what we would be doing. There are some great options out there but you cant go past the HH. Strangely I didnt have any say on the motor and he decided on Suzuki would suit him best, not all bad as the boat will see most of its days at Lake Tarawera. I also use a mates 6. buccaner and we tested one of these against the HH. Also tried the ramco but for family trout fishing the HH was the top pick

Mate brought a 6.2m Kiwi Craft so we could game fish. He didnt have much sea experience so wanted a boat he would feel comfortable in letting someone else drive so he could gain experience, so he throws me the keys when we head out and he is learning his way around boats and NZ s sea conditions. He wanted a boat that was comfortable for guests to fish from something the a guest would not have a problem getting dirty. Its been a great boat across the manakau bar, aldermans on a bloody rough day and great for strangers to fish from for snapper. It does handle more like a ship than a trailer boat. I must say I love poonton boats and would seriously say to those looking at boats to consider the safety aspects not only for them selves but for guests coming out for a enjoyable day. One thing about boating its such a great thing to share with others that making their experience a good one is important.. The senators are a beautiful boat to cruise and fish from - has anyone ever heard of quaility issues from the brand I would suggest prbably not - definately a option hard to pass up. Anyhow give this same guy a glass boat and he would ding it on the ramp.

I own a Bonito 5.2M but spend as much time on mates boats.




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