How long do boats sit on trademe for?

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    Posted: 14 May 2014 at 6:28pm
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Ive been watching one since February, the guy hasnt dropped his price which was already top dollar, but says he is after a quick sale.

It seems to me TradeMe people are trying to often get more than what an items worth. In OZ ebay works much better because people seem to have realistic prices (which is driven by the market).

Given we are now nearly in winter surely boats become even harder to sell? Ive seen some bargains take a couple of months to sell in summer, I just cant imagine how long it must take to sell a boat at above value in winter.

So at what point do you give up asking/waiting for a fair price?
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depends how much of a hurry the seller is to sell ... if the wife told me to put my boat on trade me i would price it starting at $25k ... that way it would never sell ... at least not before the divorce was finalised :P

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hahaha nice one SJ, now i get whats going on with this guy. perhaps i need to needle him more about how much value our better halves add to our lives hehe.

there does seem to be a far greater percentage of dreamers in nz compared to oz though when it comes to older used boats. often they cost more now than when they were new hehe.
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so why not open negotiations at least....."hello yes I m ringing about the boat I ll give ya ....."
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been there done that, they said, well im just waiting to see what the market offers, even when i offered the asking price. i think this particular case ive struck a looney. time to move on and take one of the easier options i guess.

but most of the time, when i offer say within 10% of the asking price its a no anyway. i just refuse to pay more that what an items worth, especially going into winter.

im more frustrated at the consistency of dreamers than it being an occasional issue. of course they dont hae to sell it at the end of the day.

perhaps im alone in this thinking because it really is a nz/trademe culture. things just seem so much better and open market with ebay. i miss it. mostly because you can get a wider variety of product. i guess we just dont have the demand in nz.
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do not worry to much,there are looneys out there.
no sea trial,no haul out for inspection and i do not care if you are paying to haul it out,no negotiation.
wonder why it has been listed since june 2013
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A boat I was very keen on started off at one price, I asked a couple of questions then decided that I would wait for a couple of months.
It then appeared for $3000 less.
I intended buying it at that price but when I emailed, they said they were in starship hospital with a sick child. I asked them to contact me when they were ready. The auction finished and I awaited a email but no so thought I had missed out. A month later it was listed again at another $2000 less. Came home and discussed it with Brenda and she said buy it so went to work ready to do the even better deal than I was willing to pay a month earlier but it had sold.
Some people are not at all worried about selling whereas others havnt got the faintest idea how to get back in touch.
I was ready to pay $2000 more and was tempted to pay $5000 but the lack of emails cost them $5000.
Was a real good deal for the person that bought it for sure when compared to the prices the same boats seem to sell for.

If people want to sell, they will meet serious offers but if they dont need to seel then they may as well let it sit and relist when they have to
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prepared to drop $5k you might of come out on the rightside of the deal,what was he hiding?might of been waiting for a sucker.i got caught on first boat price dropped i jumped and yep it cost me $3.5k for a good 2nd hand motor
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I've seen boats on trademe for years, boats there when we bought a boat were still there when we bought the next one (same ad, not being sold again).
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If its a good price not long
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I had mine on for about 2 weeks and sold.  Fair price for a well known model and was prepared to negotiate.  6 months later there are still some on there that weren't realistic or their wives wanted them to sell...
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thats my whole thing, im not looking to rip anyone off, yeah i might offer 20% less than their asking, but thats usually cause they have a 20% mark up on it.

from now on im putting zero effort into people who dont seem to want to sell in a bad market for a fair price. screw them.

there are still the fair dinkum good dudes around who know its about being fair.
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i think the ones that sell the quickest are the ones with a good communicator who is prepared to negotiate a fair deal. ie not some hack trying to offload a 1970s clapped out 14ft hull with a rusty old 70s engine on a rusty trailer for a premium (more than it probably cost new).
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Originally posted by pjc pjc wrote:

prepared to drop $5k you might of come out on the rightside of the deal,what was he hiding?might of been waiting for a sucker.i got caught on first boat price dropped i jumped and yep it cost me $3.5k for a good 2nd hand motor


I suspect that you are probably correct but it looked good to me.Embarrassed
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I sold my last boat within a week of being listed, had a couple look then got a close offer and took it and broke even with it. When buying, a good tidy boat popped up so wasted no time and went for a look with compression tester, multimeter and a pocket full of cash with me. Made a serious offer and towed it home. Selling and buying is easy if ya not a dreamer and yes theres plenty of them
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Possibly paid too much them selves and are too stubborn to admit it , I looked fora few months and yep there are some absolute dreamers on trade me especially the ones that think old outboards are worth anything, should start a thread called twats selling junk on T M .
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There's currently a second hand (admittedly new second hand) Stabi 5.7 selling at a dealer up North for $48,000. Yamaha 2 stroke. You can buy a 5.7 Frewza new for 10,000 less, with a Honda 4 stroke. 

For the plastic boats I usually look at prices can vary by 100%.

Pays to shop around and take your time.


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yea there are some dreamer's out there on TM, more so with cars i reckon. 
But as above they don't sell they just sit there,  what happened to the good ol days of the trade and exchange.
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yeah t n e worked better.

trademe has a horrid user experience at that, not sure how does their UX design but its terribad.

if kiwis had been like the rest of the world we would have ebay which is a far better system.

im just deleting users who wanna dream now. aint got time for it. the way i look at it, u want to sell in winter, expect some up front honest price discussion
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