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    Posted: 07 Feb 2005 at 4:12pm
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hi guys

do you know any information regarding the tench in hamilton lake eg. what is the best way to get them and are there many. by the way i caught a 1.5 kg rudd in turtle lake in the hamilton gardens the other day. I caught a few perch and saw a monster koi carp. my guess would be around 10kg he was orange with bits of black. i live in te awamutu which is about 20 mins south of hamiltonso does anyone also know any good carp and perch and tench hot spotz in the areas

cheers, cameron

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i just buy them my self :) saves fishing for them :) :)
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Tench are slimy bottom feeders, so what ever bait you use, you wanna have it on bottom. Dunno about Hamilton, but in the UK we used to fish for tench with either nice juicy maggotts, bread or a great one was sweetcorn, straight outta the tin. Might be worth a try :)
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Dynamite or net might be the go.

 

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snap bender, apparently grenades are good too.
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Hi cdog

I see the peasants are revolting on this site too so you won't get a serious answer so I will help you

Goto www.coarse-fisherman.co.uk and in search put Tench and theres a good article to help you land your Tench

I can't help you on your hotspots as I don't go down that far

Call your local Fish and game office they might help. I am not sure if you need a license or not and they will advise on that. Most people don't bother but I always get one as the money helps fish and game in their conservation issues

Let me know how you get on

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yes you need a licence for all coarse and sport freshwater fishing, only exception is eeling.
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 Actually I don't think you need a licence for carp but I get one anyway
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Licence requirements

A licence is not required for all coarse fishing. However coarse fish marked below with an asterix* do require a licence and these can be purchased from Fish and Game offices and most sports shops. Children under the age of 12 can fish for free but are still required to carry a licence.

Species

Rudd* - Rudd have been present in New Zealand since 1962 and are a favourite among young people because they are easy to catch. Children as young as five can catch small rudd but adult anglers may target larger fish of 2kg or more by fishing deeper.

Perch* - Perch were introduced into New Zealand in 1868 and can be caught on either a floated worm or a spinner such as a red veltic. Lifting the rod tip creates movement and ensures the Perch sees the bait or spinner.

Tench* - Tench were first introduced into New Zealand in 1867 but have only been present in the North Island since 1965. They look similar to trout but are a bronze colour and are best fished for in the warmer months.

Carp - Koi carp in New Zealand are a Japanese bred variety of the common European carp. Carp are generally orange and black coloured but some are white. They are legally classified as a �pest� because their feeding action turns clear water muddy. Carp can grow to a large size and are a considered by many to be �trophy fish�.

Catfish - Catfish or Brown Bullheads were introduced throughout New Zealand from the United States in 1877. They tend to seek the deeper parts of the lakes and streams and can be caught on sweetcorn or worms.

Other species - New Zealand has a number of other coarse fish species including eels, while golden tench and golden orfe are present in very low numbers.

Double check with DOC about carp as I have a feeling in certain areas you need a permit. Koi carp have one extra scale
on their girth whereas european carp have 12.
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thanks guts i already have a licence so theres no need to worry about that.

 

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Normally tench don't naturally have big populations such as Rudd, Perch and carp etc. Maybe due to competition for food or territory I dunno but if you have caught one there tends to be more as they hang out in small schools, they seem unusually a very family orientated fish. I used to watch them back home in britain and I swear every year in the summer they would hang around in exactly the same schools as the year before patrolling the same area. Catching them too can be a fickle buisness but your best bet is a flake of bread, sweetcorn or a worm under a float with bits of sweetcorn thrown out as an attractant. Good luck.

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A method that has worked for me 99% of trips has been to use a fishmeal based groundbait (burley if you want to call it that), but add in some dried or, if you can get it, fresh animal blood. Use this mixture as attractor, and fish amongst it with a cube of tinned luncheon meat or similar, on the bottom. Hook bait aprox. 10mm cube on a 10/12 hook.

Good luck.

PS. If the water you are fishing has any reed beds or lilly pads etc. fish as near to them as you dare. These spots will nearly always hold Tench/Carp.

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Cameron, try the waipa river downstream of Pirongia. Had a few koi out of the river myself. You are pretty close to the river so baiting up will not be a problem get yourself a  big bucket stick a couple of kilos of maize on soak for 24 hours once soaked. Put in a saucepan bring to the boil and simmer for 20 minutes. I have had some decent fish out of the river but all the driving got to me in the end 5 hours each way.

For the tench try pigeon corn (maple peas in the uk) same preperation as the maize but once boiled leave for a further 24 hours it ferments and releases a lot of sugar tench love it!!

 

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Bender and Jo you are bloody terrorists. For all the others, try worms on ground or float and bread on surface.  Carpfishers in Europe use Boillies, mostly made from their own recipies and to me more difficult to make than a chockolate cake.
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Hi CDog

I was walking around Hamilton Lake, looking for some suitable fishing spots (of which there are plenty - platforms next to lillies) and I saw several cormorants, one of which was eating a fish that, if I had to guess, I would say was a tench.

I have been meaning to try it out for ages - I am in Tauranga, so it is not too far. If you are interested, perhaps we can get together. Just send me a PM.

By the way, for those of you that have never hooked a tench, you don't know what you are missing. It is my favourite fish, with a tail like a paintbrush it pulls hell of a hard. And it is beautiful.

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hey guys...there is loads of tench perch etc in hamilton lake....there is a couple of signs at the town end of where the drive starts telling you of what fish are in there etc....

finchie...your quite touchy with regards to your carp and coarse fishing...are you english per chance...

a little stick is good now and again dont you think...most people know whats good advice or trash...

 

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 I'll leave you to guess my heritage Lizard, but your point is a good one.

If you follow the Carp forum you will see that I started a good discussion on the fun in catching Carp and then one after another I got smart comments throwing insults and saying negative things continually. That wasn't the point of the forum which was to discuss and learn how to catch 'em

Where it got heated was when I didn't roll over and gave some stick back and then those people took exception and got all up themselves.

I repeatedly said it wasn't me........I didn't do it.......don't blame me  but they kept coming back for seconds.........but I saw most of them off

The fact that this Tench forum is attracting attention and the Carp forum is still going shows the interest in coarse fish (and arguing)....don't you think ??..plus the Carp wingers have finally stopped...........I think ??

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good stuff finchie....i agree with you on all points...it is irritating when the jibes get out of hand...one has to know when to draw the line....its awesome that someone like yourself is promoting coarse fishing here in nz as i never thought it existed....perhaps one day we could meet up and you could show me a thing or two....hows that for open minded...i would like to see these carp and tench and perch etc....

 

 

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Hey good on you Lizard Im with you on this one, however don't let Jo see you say that cos  she'll hang you !!........and then me!!!

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puttin my neck on the line here chubby...who wants to take me carp fishing...finchie....fancy a student?

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