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    Posted: 12 Sep 2012 at 12:12pm
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This is the second time I have had to type this so it is shorter this time, bloody computers!


Over the past weekend we had some fantastic weather here in the bay, long periods of north westerly conditions means fantastic fishing! I have been heading to Dinahs beach as it is the first place snapper come into as it is on the open coast and well exposed. The down side it is location is open sharks, like most remote spots. This weekend was a little different because there was a surprising lack of sharks which ment baits were able to sit long enough to catch the prime target species. Sure enough along came my first snapper in the bay in the middle of the day around lunch time, at just over 3kg and full of crab.

While I have a little bit of idle time, I thought I would share a few ways to increase you chances of catching fish when you head out and away fishing. These are very simple and most take them for granted but they are very important when it comes to catching a good number of fish.



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It is important to take your time when baiting up and do it properly, this will make a difference when the fishing is slow/ hard. Rigging up for certain species and casting baits perfect for them is more likely to entice the bite.

Below are a couple of baits ready to be deployed and both are designed for different species. The first being the piece of crayfish. In spring, snapper love crayfish, its a good part of there diet and a good substitute for crabs.  The small red float is on there to catch the attention of the fish and lift it from the bottom. The needlefish also dangles around and catches the current which is very tempting to most fish. I have found snapper love the cray fish in more of a ball, which is very soft. I use a little bit of bait elastic to ensure its not going to come off, but not to much as it will firm up. This bait being flicked out on the edge of a reef will lure sure almost every time if they are around.  Because it is a sort bait the barbs can be hidden a little more than firm baits, but still make sure that the points are well exposed as this will increase your chances of a hook up.

3/4 inch bright red float, pink needle fish skirt, 4/0 beak hook fixed with a sliding 3/0 circle keeper
using 60lb fluro trace

The next bait is made more aerodynamic and its made so I can get a big distance behind the surf and into the deep water using a longcast rig. Gurnard are very partial to skippie and that what this bait was made for. When the bait is clipped into the longcast rig she is going to fly a long way. The hooks are well exposed. Gurnard tend to hit the bait in the middle and more often than not, they are caught on the circle keeper hook. Green is a magic color when targeting gurnard also. Gurnard can swallow decent sized bait and have big mouths, but its best to keep the bait on the smaller side

Green needlefish skirt, 3/0 beak mainhook, sliding 2/0 circle hook using 60lb fluro trace

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It doesn't matter where or when I go fishing I take almost every bait with me to give me the best chance of hooking up on the fish. Not always will snapper sit there and suck back pilchards. On a recent trip up the east cape I stopped in at Maraenui for a few casts and a kid after a long day on the bricks. For the life of us we could not get a bite. It is a fantastic place that always holds snapper and we had tryed almost everything!! I hate squid, and i'm dead against it LOL Its a bloody boring bait unless its a live bait. After trying mussels, tuatua, anchovies, pilchard, skippie I had to resort to using the bloody squid. I regretfully baiting up a nice juicy looking piece and flung it out there. Within 5 minutes I had the biggest snapper for the trip ! I couldn't believe it. There were still 3 other rods outs with all the other baits on em and they were left alone. I thought it was worth another crack, and straight away whack, second best snapper for the weekend. Still nothing on all the other rods and bait and it happened a third time in a row. Those snapper were there the entire time, but they were not biting because they were being fussy huas. By taking a large variety of bait we got into the fish and would have got bugger all and said it was dead other wise. The main baits I try to cover when we go out is at least one shellfish, tuatua, pipi, mussel limets ect... Ether squid or occy in the bait bin. One crustation like cray, crab, prawn and finally two oily baits like skippie, pillie, anchovie, sandma ect... Having a variety will diffinitly help you catch more fish.

In the weekend, after trying everyting, cray, mussels, pilchards, skippie, it wasn't until we sent anchovie's out till the gurnard started coming ashore. Again, we would not have caught any guranrd without it as we tried everything.


I was able to make it to the Gisborne surfcasting clubs weigh in on the weekend, fantastic bunch of guys and gals. It was great to see the kids weighing in some choice fish. I would recommend anyone new to surfcasting to look up a local club in their area and consider joining, you can take allot away from joining a club, its not for everyone, but its a great place to learn. 

One of the fish that crossed the scales was a fantastic catch. An elephant fish tipping the scales at over 6 kilo's caught by Marko, it was also a new club record. They are a very unusual fish and not the run of the mill everyday fish caught in the area and thats what makes it so special.


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Avoid these hansom critters at all costs LOL they are capable of swallowing a sand-grip sinker and look like something out of a horror movie. They are commonly known as a blind eel, hagfish, snott ect.... Some say they are tasty to eat, but I will leave that department for you fallas LOL

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Originally posted by chad chad wrote:


 
Dude
 
There was a nice surfcasting piccie here
then I quoted to say the crayfish pic was missing
 
but after looking at the facebook page
your piccie is goneburgers
 
this after F5 ing like a mofo
 
 
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Yeah god knows what the heck I did, the computer had a brain fart and she was all down hill from there LOL


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Good tips, thanks man.
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Wow, check out the teeth on that bad boy at the bottom! Shocked
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great writeup and tips and thnx for taking the time to do it twice.. Wink

Hopefully wont be too long and they will show up down here at Haumoana..

How do you buy the crayfish as bait,just fresh from a fish shop or ?

That critter swallowed your surf sinker... YUK

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Another great write up Chad cheers
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Agggh ! why oh why did you have to put a pic of a blindy up.LOL

The amount of goo they make if you put one in a bucket is amazing .

A recent survey has revealed that only one in seven dwarfs are happy.
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Great write up! Did you get your sinker back?
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It got to keep a couple new earings, the rest was retrieved LOL They will turn a whole bucket into slop, they are quite unbelievable really. Not my idea of a good catch thats for sure. It's enjoyable to catch a few odd ball fish, but not a blind eel. Also landed in the weekend was a huge red moki and banded wrasse. Both with ease NZ record fish, how ever they where released to fight another day, not much to gloat about catching a large wrasse lol.

The most hard case catch was a flounder which I hooked in the back while retrieving a large bait on an 8/0 hook. Bit of a dag, the poor bugger would have got a shock.

If I get a little more spare time during the week I may drag a few surf pics out and do a little piece on reading the surf.

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reading the surf would be great Chad, sure a lot would benefit as I know few including my self have a problem with it some times, especially at night Wink
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Superb post as always Chad.

In addition to reading the surf, it'd be great to get your thoughts on gear (reels, rods, line brands, line weight), traces, weather, seasons, slidebaiting, fighting big fish in the surf, and in fact the whole surfcasting realm. 

Pity about having to rewrite the whole thing. I have had to do this a few times and now select all and copy as I go when writing a long post.

Keep it up mate, look forward to the next instalment. 
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Thanks Chad it has given me some food for thought as I usually only fish mullet or pillies looks like i'll have to go and get some other baits as well next time I hit the surf as well as needle fish etc. One thing I have found is if your after some fresh bait eg mullet or even crabs etc don't overlook your local supermarket as they always have a variety of fresh seafood and shellfish for bait.

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Yeah no worries, I will put something up, it was pretty gutting to lose it and re-type it again, good lesson that LOL

Neil there are always baits that catch fish most of the time and work best on a beach, but sometimes when the fishing is hard, having a few extra options is all it takes to keep the ball rolling and those fish on the bite. It doesn't always work, but quite often it does. It pays to have a good chille bin so that if you don't use it, it stays it good condition and can be used for the next trip.  There is nothing worse than driving 4 or 5 hours to a location and finding the fishing tough, only for the guy next to you to be slaying it and using a bait you don't have....... Makes for a long day.




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I have one of those little "6pack coolers" from one of the fishing mags. It'll keeps baits mostly frozen all day if needed. I'll wrap frozen baits up in newspaper the night before (couple of pillies each wrap) and pack them into this and then stick this in the chilly bin.

By the time I get to spotX the top baits have started to defrost more than the bottom baits and are  nice natural not frozen texture. As they defrost the paper absorbs some of the moisture & they don't go all mushy.

Often times at the end of the day the bottom baits are still half frozen and can be refrozen for the next trip. Those that are fully defrosted I salt up.
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very informative post thanks for the hot tips, as like Edit is saying i do the same if using pillies and i am away maybe driving for a few hours the paper trick really works well for me. i also tend to nip into Pak n Save they always have stuff as an extra option if you feel the fishing will be hard always pays to have a choice it's just like Softies or Lures if the colour is not right you would change it i dont know anybody who goes out for a days fishing with one Lure and one Softbait.



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Another thing I do is stop off at my local Seamart and grab a fresh grey mullet, a squid and some mussels, generally for under $15. Get the mullet scaled while I'm there and I've now got bases covered with my thawing pillies, salted bonito and the occasional piper from taking the kids sprat fishing .
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for crayfish is it better to get it fresh in pcs or however it come from sumone like the supermarket or do you buy it a better way ?
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