My Way to Tie an FG Knot.

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With both FG and bimmini twist, once you have put in the 1st 1/2 hitch, the knot is basically secured.
The rest of the 1/2 hitches/ rizzuto knot(s)  are simply to stop the tag end slipping back thru.
Using finish/ rizzuto knot is the same with most other knots... stop the tag slipping back on a short tag end.

In the case of the bimmini and the KG the string of finishing 1/2 hitchs also acts a a taper on the end of the knot so passes thru the rod guides easy. Espec when casting .. eg soft baits/ lures.

 I have said above, and many times.. the 'secret' espec on braid knots is pull each turn/ 1/2 hitch up hard before proceeding to the next one...espec  including the finish knots.
 If these are left a bit loose then decide to pull them up all at once they will bunch, defeating the purpose of a slim tapered knot... and will not set correct.
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Half hitches, will do the trick but they will slowly unravel. A rizutto finish pulled up tight will stop that. Not a fan of using superglue
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You will find using several 1/2 hitches on smaller gauges  not an issue.. Heavy trace, maybe and this has only varying degree of support.

 The main issue that causes 1/2 hitches to loosen is how tight the line is pulled upand tied behind it.
 Its the same with tightening shoes laces, which is basically 2 1/2 hitches.
A the lace comes undone from below the knot because the laces have not been pulled up enough to keep tension on the bottom knot...even if the lace knot has the 'double' put on at last.

That used to be the very 1st 'lesson' of the season to parents (and players) when used to coach junior football.Wink

The only time I ever had 1/2 hitches loosen  enough for the main line to fail was way way back when tended to be a bit lazy in discipline pulling up turns as go.

And that is most likey why ppl have issues with knot going loose.

In saying that, I I tie a surgeons, clinch, and numerous other knots, I put a 3x rizzuto on the back of it.
Maybe over kill, but there have been the odd occasions when cut the tag back flat, then had the  tag tip pull back thru.
 So it just a little 'insurance' where having a slim knot is required for casting smooth thru guides... and finishing a bimmni or a FG with a rizzuo, tends to bunch rather than lay the twists flat.
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I use the FG knot A LOT. All my braid spooled rods have a mono top shot - sometimes only a couple of meters long. But never braid- swivel. 
I have never had one come loose. Haven't watched vid  but I pull my braid tight (teeth) and loop mono by reverse loops about 10 each way. Then a couple of half hitches with the braid to finish, then a double half hitch. I have tension on all these - especially the FG mono loops. THEN I pull the whole rig apart - as a fish would, as hard as I can. Then I trim and superglue the half hitch ends (after trimming the mono and braid.) Just to keep them tidy. 100% rate so far and that is several years so far, and fish as big as marlin.
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I use the FG knot a lot.  A couple of weeks ago I boated a sizeable stingray on 7kg braid with an FG knot securing the braid to the leader.  No problem.

Something I have noticed, if the end of the braid is bit UV exposed or abraded and gets a bit soft, yt won't bite into the leader.  Needs to be cut back to newer looking braid which is sharper.

Also have to say that for my small bait-caster reels, the FG allows the leader to pass through the little hole in the level wind guide on small bait-caster reel is so small.  And I can tie it on the boat from memory ... Geek provided I remember my glasses!
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Something I have noticed, if the end of the braid is bit UV exposed or abraded and gets a bit soft, yt won't bite into the leader.  Needs to be cut back to newer looking braid which is sharper.

 Thats a damn good point,
Maybe one of those details why some ppl have issues with the FG...like not pulling each turn up before the next turn/hitch

Good practice is always cut back to good undamaged line, regardless of line type. See it so often on the boat, people dont check mainline or trace for damage when re tying or dropping again.. espec after a good fish has been caught..
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