Lucky Yellowfin

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Lucky thing evaded the nets for 11 years. Interesting to read the growth rates etc.

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Interesting...
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Supports the lack of yellow fin here is due to fishing pressure else where. That's a hell of distance to travel.
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They said its the only recapture!!! ever??  did I read that right?? or is that just the atlantic??
we tagged a YF behind the Mokes many years ago..  only a 10kg one...  
wish there were a few still left for us rec guys..
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About 10 years ago we had a hot run of yft around the garden patch and tagged about 6 in the 20-30 kg range.
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Amazing to see the Japs return a tag. Although it would appear that it was from a research boat and not a commercial boat.
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There are a few more regulations around the atlantic y/fin stocks...thats why the pacific is getting such a caning
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Come on guys, those fisher men have got to make a living just like you and me. Most of them have got wives and children to provide for and maybe a house to pay off. Think about it
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[QUOTE=Crazy Horse]Come on guys, those fisher men have got to make a living just like you and me. Most of them have got wives and children to provide for and maybe a house to pay off. Think about it  [QUOTE]                      Get out and catch a fish will ya, will start calling you Butters if you keep dropping them.     
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wow, no before and after pics???
Winter yields few big fish, summer yields plenty of legals.
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The thing that annoys the crap out of me is that the Govenrment, Sport Fishing council and other organisations  worked together to implement the billfish moratorium during the 90's which is partly reposnible for the currently good state of the bill fishery we have now.
 
Yet both have been VERY backward in coming forward wrt the current state of the yellowfin fishery.
 
New Zealand's economy benefits when 32,000 (yes there's some duplication in that number)  members of the Sportfishing council are buying tackle, gas, boats, accomodation in their pursuit of yellowfin that most people used to be able to catch during the summer months.
 
More needs to be done to bring the Yellowfin population back to where it was such that we have them back in New Zealand for all to enjoy.
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Originally posted by Crazy Horse Crazy Horse wrote:

Come on guys, those fisher men have got to make a living just like you and me. Most of them have got wives and children to provide for and maybe a house to pay off. Think about it
Not sure if you are serious or not???? That was what our local tuna fishermen were saying before they realised that they couldn't catch tuna anymore and had to start catching heaps of Broadbill 'bycatch' to pay the bills. Bottom line is that these unregulated migratory stocks are getting rapidly fished to commercial extinction. It is just a race to see who can become the richest before the stock is gone. Unfortunately, recreational 'extinction' has already occurred in some places like NZ. I caught my last YFT 5 years ago. Chances are my son will never see one in the wild. I can't see how the short term feeding of a relative handful of families for maybe 5 - 10 more years is more important than the imminent destruction of a fishery once enjoyed by 100's of thousands of recreational fishermen.
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Here here Dave... Totally agree !
 
Didnt Australia a decade or so ago put a ban or severely restrict the commerciual and recreational catch for a couple of years to get that East coast stock happening again after it was pretty much wiped out ?
 
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Yes I am serious in what I said. If they are allowed by law to fish for y f t then they will do so, and sadly they will not stop till the stocks are gone. Then as you say they will move on to the next species of fish and on and on. The focus needs to go on to the govt to use the quota system to stop the slaughter. But how do they stop the ring fence out side our 200 nm limit by the off shore fleet. Also how do you stop people going to the super market and buying canned tuna.
Just upsets me when I hear heaps of **** thrown at guys who choose to fish for a living when they are legally allowed to. have you ever taken the time to call them up while there out to have a yarn. They are a great help when you are loooking for fish. E.g. current lines temp breaks and even fish seen from where they sit 12 to 15 mts out of the water.
From my charter operation I even see just the ordinary bloke take fish after fish and not throw any back.
One trip we were out we had one of those days where all the fish that came on board none were under 15 lb. I said to one old lady who had caught 8 fish over 18 lb that would you like me to take your photo of you holding that fish and then put it back to spawn. She said what is wrong with it. Nothing I said but maybe if you put it back your grand children will catch its offsring. I took her photo and then she told me to put it in the bin. Bag. But we are all guilty.
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About decade ago I talked to guy doing a masters on the economics of the quota managment system.  The theory was to get the industry to manage the fishery better by having a porperty right. So that they would let the fish grow bigger and hence have a more productive fishery to beneift from. Unfortunately the economics was such that this would not work. It was more profitable to remove all the fish and invest the money. Legislation with enforcment is always going to be needed if we want healthy fish populations.
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they need to place a higher deemed value on by catch......
 
Bloody, boats target by catch, and are prepared to pay, foreign vessel with cheap labour.
 
Not breaking the law, but quota is not working in this instance.
 
Sorry a bit off subject,
I know of a tagged tuna in whakatane that go recaptuerd of the coast of aussie.
 
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crazyhorse...i'm interested how could our govt. effectively manage highly migratory species like YFT with quota? We look after them at sustainable levels inside our EEZ then what? I agree that its not just commercial effort that has derrimental effects to global biomass but certainly the lions share is the industries responsibility... the current bounty on the last tunas head is to powerful....i believe the fishery needs to completely colapse now before anything will be done....just hope there is a decent store of tuna embyro/dna in a chyro chamber somewhere.

Pesimestic at best....but seen it decline rapidly in front of my eyes over the last short decade.

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I find it hard to see why anyone would think that if it was legal lets kill the lot JUST FOR MONEY.

On a recent trip to American Samoa there where plenty of trawlers with helicopters ready for the spotting, I noticed that several left the harbour at the same time but only 1 chopper a for the few that went out that would indicate they working together ??

May be thay are all owned by one fat cat, if that was true then he is not just a fisherman looking to pay his mortgage or put food on the table more so just reap the profit of killing till they are all gone

When the world wide spread of fishing till they are all dead stops we will never see Yellow Fin Tuna he like we have, and I would like to say I do not want it to happen to the Marlin that comes here  
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Crazy Horse. Is it not up to you as captain on your boat, as it is up to the government in our waters, to make the rules and perhaps not allow your clients to take so many big breeding fish. If something seems morally wrong on your boat, then surely it is your place to enforce some onboard rules. I have been on charter boats where the size limit for Snaps is 32cm. No one had a problem with this, as I'm sure they wouldn't at the other end of the scale. Sure, 1 trophy fish to take home to show the mates... But 8?
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Unfortunately whats probably going to happen to the yellow fin has happened before to cod in the northern hemisphere. There is good book called "Cod" by Mark Kurlansky that describes the history of the cod fishery from medieval times to its collaspe in recent times.
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