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    Posted: 05 Jun 2013 at 9:17pm
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Ideas on the best way to set up a livie tank on a 5.5 ramco dominator? Tossing up between a thru hull pump or mounting a bilge on the transom (do these wear out?), and am unsure of the best way to use a venturi system. 
Really need it to supply water both when driving and when stationary and want to keep alot of maccies (40-50) or a couple of kahawai alive. If it could support a tuna tube in future all the better. Was thinking of using a small drum with a perspex lid for the setup. 

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venturi for when moving, pump for when still...
it can be set up so it all runs automatically,
but that needs a small box attached to the transom,
the box acts as a pick-up the pump is setup with a float switch which turns it off when the boat is up and running and the venturi takes over....
best to keep your fittings and tank outside the boat unless you have a specially built one which is not going to over flow and sink your boat...
good luck Frenchy they are a great add-on for fishing... 

Thanks for everything you did for us Eric. may you rest in peace, You were one of the real legends of NZ recreational fishing
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anyone find a mini air-pump useful for keeping live baits alive in the tank? I use a mini air pump runs on two AAAA batteries
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Andy, aerators are only good if you can change the water as well regular,
fish in a livebait tank are continually urinating as they are scared senseless,
this in turn will kill your livies over time....
   
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Originally posted by Lethal Lethal wrote:

venturi for when moving, pump for when still...
it can be set up so it all runs automatically,
but that needs a small box attached to the transom,
the box acts as a pick-up the pump is setup with a float switch which turns it off when the boat is up and running and the venturi takes over....
best to keep your fittings and tank outside the boat unless you have a specially built one which is not going to over flow and sink your boat...
good luck Frenchy they are a great add-on for fishing... 


Hey Lethal, who's the best person to talk to about retro fitting one of these auto boxes/float switches to a livebait set up? Cheers JJ Wink
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there are many ideas out there and I expect most work, the venturie would be one of the better ones when traveling. we would get a piece of pipe plastic condute or water pipe about 20mm diameter, an angle of about 45* was cut on the bottom we attached it to the boat with U clamps/clips now this was not stuck fast, this because we were able to move it above the bottom of the hull if we did not want water, remember the weight factor when you fill a bait tank and to be fair more is better if you want a few in there, anyways because back then we were on smaller boats with small batteries etc etc we would if stationary chuck in a bucket of fresh water just to freshen up, oh the venturie pipe must go to the height you want you water to be in your tank as it works as a syphone as well.
personally and I am about to do this is I will put one below the swim step, it will be fitted to the step not the hull, this is the way to go a hassle to put on but with a tinny dam easy and there are plenty of boat builders out there who would do it for you and even have them made up for you.
water flow and aieration is the key and remember surface area is a good idea
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Have a look here just doing the same thing and asked the question
 
slowly going where everyone else has already been
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We have our pump (just a big bilge pump) set up in a small box at waterline on the transom. With a small alloy pipe welded to the bottom facing forwards poking just under the hull. Keeps the box full of water when travelling so the pump will work at any speed. Works just as well at 20knts as when we are anchored. The pump runs direct to the tuna tubes the a pipe runs from the tubes into the livie tank. So 1 pump does both. Macca's in the tank and Kahawai in the tubes. Works mint Thumbs Up
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Cheers for the replies guys. AlexFyssher I like the sound of that system, would you please be able to post pics of that set up if possible? 
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Originally posted by frenchay frenchay wrote:

Cheers for the replies guys. AlexFyssher I like the sound of that system, would you please be able to post pics of that set up if possible? 
 
Boats in the Coro and don't have photo's on hand. Next time im down there (next couple weeks) ill tak some.
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yeah mate if I cant get a tank fitted below the swim step I will git one beside the tuna tubes and use the over flow to fill the tank
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Originally posted by Blue Asparagus Blue Asparagus wrote:

yeah mate if I cant get a tank fitted below the swim step I will git one beside the tuna tubes and use the over flow to fill the tank
 
I gather you have seen a set up like this before? We just have 2 tall fish bins on the duck board that double as livie tanks and just filled by the overflow from the tubes. Plenty of water comes out the overflows....
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yeah mate many moons ago before the Rule bait tank pumps came along I had a similar set up, the new boat has tubes fitted but I will put a skin fitting on one to run a hose direct if I can fit one under the step
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Originally posted by Blue Asparagus Blue Asparagus wrote:

yeah mate many moons ago before the Rule bait tank pumps came along I had a similar set up, the new boat has tubes fitted but I will put a skin fitting on one to run a hose direct if I can fit one under the step
 
Those Rule pumps are expenny so this is certainly a more economical way of setting up. Whats the new boat?
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Cheers, what bilge are you running for the two tubes?
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Originally posted by frenchay frenchay wrote:

Cheers, what bilge are you running for the two tubes?
 
Its an old one that shat itself recently. was about 2500 - 3000 GPH (can't read it as its old as). But will replace with one 3000GPH +. Can't have too much water running through Thumbs Up.
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Originally posted by AlexFyssher AlexFyssher wrote:

Originally posted by frenchay frenchay wrote:

Cheers, what bilge are you running for the two tubes?

 
Its an old one that shat itself recently. was about 2500 - 3000 GPH (can't read it as its old as). But will replace with one 3000GPH +. Can't have too much water running through Thumbs Up.


Did you find the old bilge pump kept the skippies alive . Gunna make some tubes up over winter and was just gunna run a 3000-4000lph bilge pump on them
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whats the consensus on intake filters

should I be installing one to a 500gph livewell pump,
or not really needed?
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40-50 mac's that's a lot of water and extra weight out the back on a small boat Frenchay. I've the same ship as you, whats your motor?
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