wet_dreams wrote:Cheers for your replies so far. That's where it's interesting, as I have access to Canterbury kingfish, so generally on a sand bottom so heaps of time to fight, BUT the kings wouldn't be as big as the sounds. Can still get 10-15 kg fish though. But I don't want to get something too heavy and end up skull dragging a smaller fish (maybe I just need 2 setups). Most fishing will be top water stickbaits and jigging. So really if I was expecting to be catching 15kg fish MAX. I could get away with a 7kg max drag reel? A 20-30kg rated rod? And with braid being thinner could fit it with 30lb braid? Am I on the right track? Would be good to get a combo that I could switch up between kingies and groper. I have lighter setups for cod and snapper etc. So once I know how to match it all I can sort a few different kits to suit my different needs. Cheers |

Rozboon wrote:For Kingfish, you need about half the target fishes weight in drag. 12-15kg will be heaps for anything except real trophy size monsters, and will result in the majority of rods looking like a horseshoe, or turning into a 2-piece model real fast if you're not careful. You would be surprised just how much pressure you can put on a fish with 6 or 7kg of drag. The rod weight tends to be 2 to 3 times the drag that you plan to use. A "15kg" rod will be close to turning inside out with 5kg of drag over it, likewise you really want a 37kg/80lb/PE8 rated setup if you're gonna go running 15-odd kg of drag. Personally, I reckon a high-end mid-weight setup is going to be nicer to fish with and better suited to 95% of fish you catch. I would have a good look at something like a Jig Star Ninja ML PE3-6 with a Saragosa 10000 on it, spool it with a thin 80lb braid and give it heaps. |
wet_dreams wrote:Thanks for the reply Mason. So the reasoning for the 50lb braid is so you can basically apply 25kg of force to stop the fish? Because I am assuming a 15kg on scale fish could fight 20kg of force? And the trindad has 11kg max drag so that would work well with the 40lb range rod? If you had 25 kg braid, would you be better off getting a reel with a higher drag, say closer to 20kg? I just want to make sure I am getting the idea of matching it all so i know for future, rather than just going off recommendations. Actually understanding properly the reasons why. Cheers mate appreciate it. |
The Tamure Kid wrote:
one or two points on top of the excellent advice you've received. It's important to note that: 1. a braid that's labelled as 50lb will typically break at well above that - maybe at 80lb of true force. So don't try to equate the braid 'breaking strain' with force being applied. 2. If you set a spin reel to 20kg of drag (and there aren't many with that capability), you'd probably get pulled overboard. A guy in the shop where i bought my overhead reel for livebait fishing set the strike drag to 9kg, and that's a lot more than you think when you try to pull line. 3. Rozboon above made the great point that cranking a reel with "max drag" of 7kg to full drag would probably over-stress other parts of the reel (Japan-sourced reels usually say "max drag" and "practical drag" on them, the latter for a good reason).
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