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Let us hear about your thoughts on the best and worst kayaks for fishing?
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Payless plastics have some real cheapies that do the job well enough....accesories is the hard part what was  a good idea last week may turn to crap this week so best to try before buy...
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I have been out demo'ing a few yaks in the last few weeks. Kayaks for me are hard to settle on cuz I am a big bloke of 130kgs.

Perception Swing: Best all around for the little guys under 100kgs. Fast Stable and Vesatile

Cobra Tourer: The most impressive to be for stability, speed, and tracking. you can see the potential for this kayak. Best factory finish of the Cobras I tested. Imagine a fast Ocean Kayak Scrambler XT

Cobra Fish and Dive: I looked forward to playing with this for almost a year and when I finally did, it left much to be desired. The wind kills it, it's too wide for an efficent paddle stroke, and the foot wells were too narrow. you sit pigeon toed with your knees pointed inward. The positive thing was that it was a dry ride.

Cobra Explorer: Pesssssshhh NOT IMPRESSED you're better off with the Perception Swing by far!

Ocean Kayak Scrambler XT: Roomy, semi slow but faster than the Fish and Dive by a long shot. Very comparable to the Cobra Tourer for stability. I've heard that this one is a top choice for landbased boys that use kayaks to get to their spot.

Will be trying out a couple more from Kayak Direct shortly!

FYI, Kayak direct has a top secret design coming into New Zealand from Aussie shortly. I've seen the pics and it's impressive looking. comes with an electric trolling motor. It's called the "Tempo Fisher"

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HellFish, have you tried out an Ocean Kayak Tempo?
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well I have a SEKAT from farmlands for around $400 I find it a good pratice yak,

I'm built like hellfish so need  reasonable stability and i find the sekat really good coming back through the waves.

will look at a newer model latter when the budget allows

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Weight in the water is a big factor ,i think, the more often you go out and slay the further a field youll want to go and a light kayak that travels thru the water easy will take you further with the limited energy available....
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I'll have to look into the SEKAT. It sounds interesting. There's one more high budget yak i'm interested in trying out. I hear it's not the best design for fishing but very comfortable. What makes it bad for fishing is that it doesnt have a tank well for your catch. You have to open a major hatch, and if you land a decent Snapper, good luck fitting his big head in there.

Wilderness System Tarpon 160. It's a 4 metre sit on top with a hull design much like the Swing. From my research, there is only one in the country down in Palmerston North. It's only $2000 bare bones <cough wheeze hak>.

No KingfishSi I havent tried that one yet. I'll look into it.

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Oops, the Tempo is a Viking brand kayak. It's a fishing/diving craft.

Neat feature for this is the 'pod' accessory which sits behind you in the well and can also be used as a back pack or towed behind for extra storage.

This kayak retails for $999 including paddle and seat.

You can check them out here:

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Has anyone tried the escapade? I am looking at buying a kayak at the moment budget around $1,000 and someone recommended the escapade.I will check out the tempo as recommended by kingfishSi.

Any feedback would be most welcome.

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Stew,

I hope I don't offend anyone... Steer clear of the Escapade mate it's a bit junior. Like kingfish was saying, for your budget, take a look at the viking kayak (a.k.a. kayak direct). best bang for the buck it looks like. Another one worth the look is the Ocean Kayak Scrambler XT

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When I was looking around the best mix of form vs functionality vs price seemed to be the Tempo and then Scrambler XT.

I also liked the POD arrangement with the Tempo.

As it is I have been using some Ocean River 4m sit on's and have taken over ownership of these for substantially less than the $1k I would have been up for for new ones.

Ocean River definately fit into the extremely stable but not ideal for decent length journeys as they are buggers to steer when in a bit of wind. Great fishing platform when 2 are strapped side by side

 

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Thanks for the help just checked out out vikings website I think Iwill go with the tempo. I have seen on some american sites people using a echo sounder anyone here using one if so what model?

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Stew,

Go with a Lowrence sounder. get the best you can afford mate.

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ive tryed out the scrambler xt and the scupper pro. i was really impressed by the scupper pro which had rudder systems and back rest. it also had sealed compartments and they(fergs kayaks) that they would throw two rod holers in (flush mounted and sealed). i weigh 62kg so wouldnt be able to comment on that aspect. i found it easy to paddle tho and comfortable to sit in.

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stew, i've got the escapade, i like it. i would likely go with a larger kayak next, maybe even a double. i like lots of space when i fish.

hellfish, what didn't you like about the escapade? i'm curious as i only tried out one other before buying. i'm hoping to try a few kayaks in the next year to compare.

has anyone looked into building one? i know some of the best sit-in kayaks are hand made plywood, i wonder what a home built sit-on would be like?

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G'day CJ

What I didn't like about the escapade was "For Me" the whole package. I know that some people are quite comfortable in them. I wasn't. It didn't carry my Kgs very well. The one I demo'd didn't track straight and was very reactive to the wind. The seat that is available didn't appeal to me much and when I got out my back hurt.

Not very positive aye? Well. here's a positive note. It's inexpensive and it would be great for kids!

Don't let my negativity about your particular rig sway your opinion or be offended. When it comes down to it, what suits one person does not suit another in comfort, style, and usability. If you're happy with what you have then don't change. BUT if you're in the market again for a new rig definately try before you buy!

I was a gnats @$$ from buying a Perception Swing before I tried it out. I think it's an awesome rig, but after a test... Definately not for me.

Hope that helps ?

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i don't mind mine so much hellfish. so if your telling me it is not even close to some other igs, well, i am really looking forward to trying some of them out. i love fishing from my kayak, and have spent up to 6/7 hoursin it. maybe we can meet up sometime for a fish and i'll give yours a try? cheers mate.
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just been into www.canoesports.co.nz they look really good, any one tried them
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Sure CJ, we'll have to do that sometime.

Been out for a fish yesterday. Caught a biggun' Wooo hooo!!!

Tested the Viking Kayaks Tempo. Comfy seat, not wild about the foot positioning, a bit on the slow side, feels tippy although stable, a good bang for the buck for the average jo blow beginner on a tight budget. Vesatile hatches and deck space which is important. Nice Tank Well that can easily hold 40kgs of fish.

I think the Scrambler XT has it for speed and stability. and the XT also has a better seat if you go with the Deluxe Seat.

CJ you're in Auckland , track down a dealer with a Scrambler XT, have them put a (deluxe seat) on it and use a Northwest Passage paddle on a 75 degree adjustment and go for a paddle. There's a dealer in Northshore off Constillation Drive at the Accencion PL intersection. While you're there paddle the Cobra Tourer. You're wife will love you cuz you'll have a boner for a month! Just don't say it's not because of her.

 

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HF what sort of kayak does that steve dude from whangarei use ?????????Hes the get out the back man from what ive heard ,likes to go out there on his yak,must be a pretty reliable unit hes on.........
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