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    Posted: 23 Apr 2016 at 10:59am
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Hi
As above, is there, what why and how .could I get a 6 mtr boat to overnite, go blue water fishing and please the misses or do I need to go 7 mrts, pro and cons please. I am prepared to spend between 50 and 70k, but know more. any feed back would be great
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Huge in terms of overnight comfort and keeping the wife happy. Probably not such a huge jump in performance unless you are going for a deep v hull.

Went from a 559 stabi that we could just cram into, it was fine for fishing (aside from the ride), but it was cold at night, and just way too cramped for overnighting. Then gotta 7 and a bit meter Fyran enclosed HT and it was a world of difference, she actually liked going out and even took the new baby out on it and went across for a weekend to Barrier etc.

The enclosed HT is everything when it comes to keeping females happy, they are out of the wind, out of the engine noise, and it's warm and cozy at night with the sound of other boats and mossies all blocked out.

She ended up liking it so much we got an 8m enclosed HT Southern which we can stay away on for a week.

I know expresso does overnighters in his 6.1 gamefisher and that looks comfortable, but if you could get a 6.7 enclosed hardtop or similar it would be the bee's knees. 

Better to save up and go bigger. Or you will just be selling and losing money again to upgrade in a few years time.
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great advice, cheers
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In a short nasty chop: A 7m boat will often bridge across two peaks and run relatively flat across the chop, whereas  a smaller boat will go down into the troughs more and produce a bumpier ride. 

Obviously a gross generalisation but something I have observed and have heard others comment on.

 


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especially on the lakes, man taupo can be tough, worse than the sea on a bad day
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Aye, the 6m will do the job, but there's no replacement for displacement, length or whatever. The 6m open pit is great for most day boating and I can steer and fish at same time if necessary, but it'd be nice to have an enclosed cabin overnight, also a bit more privacy.
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All depends on set up , my 6mtr boat would be more suitable than some 7 mtr boats for overnighting.Fibreglass hull , full length bunks in a fully lined cabin . Lights for reading and initially had a TV for kids. 
Substantial hardtop, plumbed electric toilet , fridge , 2 burner cooker , slide out table and cockpit shower.
The trade off being the cockpit space is reduced , still does a good job for my family use , but would be a bit tight for 4 big blokes fishing at the same time , 3 ok. This could be improved by removing one of the super comfy back to backseats , I considered this on drivers side but going to leave how it is for now.
Slide out camper extension , with sides that fully closes boat in . My misses liked the boat so much It was an easy sell to justify spending a good chunk of cash on brand new 4 stroke motor. She is looking forward to doing bounty hunter fishing comp with me , a mid winter comp that we will probably spend 2 nights onboard . Actually did 3 onboard recently when teenage son joined us , he was reasonably comfy on roll out mattress under hardtop.Would have been a hard sell with my surtees 5.5 I use to overnight in , spent 3 nights on that once , not sure what smelled worse , the old unused burley or me , was all the same to me LOL.




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is there a difference between 6 metres and 7 metres Yes 1 metre,someone had to post itThumbs Up
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Originally posted by pjc pjc wrote:

is there a difference between 6 metres and 7 metres Yes 1 metre,someone had to post itThumbs Up
LOL Thought about posting that myself but thought someone else's turn to be be the smart a-- . pjc , were you the fulla wanting an old 1950 approaches to Auckland chart , bit off topic but can't be bothered trolling through old post.
 


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Originally posted by corokid corokid wrote:

Originally posted by pjc pjc wrote:

is there a difference between 6 metres and 7 metres Yes 1 metre,someone had to post itThumbs Up
LOL Thought about posting that myself but thought someone else's turn to be be the smart a-- . pjc , were you the fulla wanting an old 1950 approaches to Auckland chart , bit off topic but can't be bothered trolling through old post.
 


yes,hoping that it shows the old trawl lines,remember seeing on a chart pre 1970.
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Hey mate just to muddy the waters some what. We traded in a 559 Stabi on a 7m ramco overnighter. But once the missus got hooked in the overnight capabilities and comfort we ended up selling that (at a loss) and getting a 8m Southern with full carpet/fridge/hot/ocold shower/kitchen etc.

I'm now going to be putting that on the market looking at upgrading to a launch (3 kids and now a missus whose hooked)

So if you wanna stretch your budget it would definately pay off in the long term rather than upg

It's the same model as this but 5 years older with a new 250 honda. http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/boats-marine/motorboats/auction-984723471.htm

But only asking a fraction of the cost with a 2000 V8 landcruiser that can be included in any deal the http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/boats-marine/motorboats/auction-984723471.htmt 

Just throwing it out there!


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Originally posted by Espresso Espresso wrote:

Aye, the 6m will do the job, but there's no replacement for displacement, length or whatever. The 6m open pit is great for most day boating and I can steer and fish at same time if necessary, but it'd be nice to have an enclosed cabin overnight, also a bit more privacy.

Good point. Go on my mates surtees 6.1 and he can jig as much as us even that he is driving due to the open nature of the boat. Doesn't have to crawl around some seats. But the cabin is smaller in regards to overnighting. Fibreglass boats often have larger cabins and quieter so better for overnighting. Aluminium often are better layed out for fishing so everything is a compromise
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How about a boat that's 6.5m?
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Aye it depends on the setup, what you will be using the boat for the most.
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An important consideration for the fairer sex is discreet toilet facilities.  At 7m you have the possibility of a separate toilet compartment.


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Dunno man..... seen a lot of people buy big boats only for them to sit in there yards for months on end.
Hard to tow
Hard to launch
Expensive to run.
Smaller boat. More use + better locations  =  more fish and better work stories.

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I am with Schampy - when getting to 7 metres plus have a close look at a larger rig in a marina or hardstand. 
Rahui, you should cost that option out.
A Landcruiser or F250 plus trailer maintenance and management soon add up to a very expensive year on the water. Probably paid for he marina for a couple of years.
I drive to my marina berth in my Yaris!
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No to thread hijack, but if anyone else is in the market for an 8.5m fully enclosed fishing machine burning 22lph at 20 knots and tops out at 40... flick me a PM great great barrier and beyond boat for overnighting for a week there 2.
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I think as the size gets up its hard to beat a dry stack solution if it's in your budget. That way no launching hassles, no storage hassles. If we go bigger again it will be only so big that it can still be dry stacked.
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waterline length is important, I always check the hull were the boat will meet the water and measure from there. most boats are a mrt short on what they say they are.
Peeves me off, why do they say they are 6 mrts when they are really 5 mtrs.
Haines have true waterline length,I am sure other boats do as well, talk about stretching the truth.
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