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They will have to take the Bimini off and put it in sideways, containers are 8 ft wide. I’m looking at it as well, there is a roro that comes in to Auckland, from Los Angeles.
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Thanks Viscount, will send you a PM, I'm still feeling a bit dubiousof this business 
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Guys, do not, under any circumstances, use Boat Export USA.

They are a complete rip off. Happy to take your deposit and then when they can't deliver as promised, will keep you deposit and refuse to refund stating that it's "fees" as they are not a traditional brokerage service.

They also decided that after I paid a deposit, they would not only not be able to deliver on their timeline, but the cost now went up 20%. Further to that, upon arrival, you will be charged approx $2k by the local yard to unload and reassemble the boat. Add that to the cost if your going with a container. 

I literally had to hire a FL based attorney to get my money back and it took 6 months.

Ended up using Taurus Logistics who are based in Christchurce. Highly suggest using a company that is bound by NZ law and the Acts associated with NZ law.

I found Taurus to be quite good and for RORO service pretty close to the same cost as boat export usa wanted for a container service.

I imported a 23' WA and definitely learned some lessons. 
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  Oh well there goes that plan then - but thanks very much for the heads up HuntGatherRepeat. Would have been a divorce for sure !! what i cant understand is ... is it a few deals that go really sour, or do they do this to every customer? they couldn't exist for long surely?
anyway - onward...
How did you purchase your boat? through a dealer? i take it Taurus don't do purchasing etc - more port to port.
Please any info would be greatly appreciated.
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Purchased through POP Yachts who were reasonably helpful.

From what I understand, boat export just snags all online listings and funnels to their own site. When you enquire, they then chase the actual owner/dealer and try to do a deal. Likely they will go ahead and say you have a deal regardless, then get a deposit. If they can then secure it, then it seems to work out. If they cant, that's when it all goes to crap.

Multiple cases filed against them through FL chamber of commerce and the BBB.

If you order through a broker, which I suggest as they handle all paperwork, you can then sort your own logistics company.

If you want to discuss flick me a PM.
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Bought a Trouphy 2509 in from Virginia 18 months ago. The boat is 8 mtrs and was on a trailer so used roll on off service. The cost was 8365 usa dollars but in that was mani fest fee $25, thc $125 docs?250 land freight$700 fumigation$550.
I had no problems dealing with any body in the states, my problems started at the port of Auckland. Be bloody wary of their charges. Ibought the boat off a dealer and had it shipped by Trans Global.
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Hi all,

New poster and enjoying the topic. I'm also an ex-pat Yank living in Auckland. I'm also considering bringing in a U.S. boat.

Thought I'd add my two cents to the discussion:

It appears the magic number for importing is 39' OAL and 12.4' total height. Any bigger than that and the boat can't be shipped via container, which will raise the price by at least $10k USD in most cases. Under 39' and you could be looking at as "little" as $20k USD to bring a big game fisher in.

One thing I notice gets overlooked (understandably) is how vastly different the U.S. boating industry is from coast to coast and all throughout the middle. People often think of the States as one place, but in reality it's much more like the European Union, but that everyone speaks the same language (sort of). A Norwegian boat would be operating under very different environments to a Greek boat, similarly a Florida boat vs an Alaska boat etc etc.

I work in the NZ marine industry and we find the most comparable U.S. market to ours would be the Pacific Northwest up into Alaska, and also New England (Maine, New York, Boston etc). California as well, but that's going to be more on the launch side. If you look at Stabicraft you'll notice their U.S. foothold started in Seattle and Alaska, since they love aluminium up there (absolutely essential in most cases).

Florida (and the South in general) like open boats, and the middle is all lakes, though the Great Lakes are essentially inland oceans as far as the marine industry there is concerned. In general many inland U.S. boats are often treated like mobile apartments, so they generally have very well furnished interiors, though often limited deck space or open bows, which is no good for our waters.

I lived on the Great Lakes for a bit and I wouldn't overlook the boats being sold there (despite slightly higher shipping costs). Every boat in that part of the world has to be "winterized" every year (so very well serviced). And more often than not they are stored indoors, sometimes even in heated garages. That means that any boat from Wisconsin, Illinois, Michigan, Ohio, etc could have lived nearly half of it's life indoors. Something to consider.

I respect the bad boat buying experience some have had, but sometimes these cases can be a one-off, and others may have quite a different experience.

At any rate, the more boats brought in the better I say, none of us should have to mortgage our house to go fishing!

~Carl
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Very well said and great info Carl, welcome to the kiwi fishy forum.Clap
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Hi all, I'm still working with my boat and shipping guys. 
There is certainly more than one way to skin a cat with the transport - i'll tell more when i get mine sorted. 
Yes - you can buy very cheaply in the US. And a hell of a lot bigger range. 
For me I've been looking at center console  inboard shaft drive diesels - around the 6-8m range, and there isn't a lot here. 
The thing to  be aware of is......
Brands makes and models - big homework job. Use a good website like Hull Truth to look up brands,models and years. 
What service are you going to use for transport? 
Fit in a container? - Obviously beam becomes the problem.
Fit in a container sideways? using a high top container - sounds weird but they do it
RORO  the total length. tongue of trailer to far end of boat and total highest point.
Agent or private - believe me there is thousands to be saved going private, Agents chuck a fortune on boats. if going private trust becomes the issue, an escrow service, friendly boat yard etc would be wiser. you need bricks and mortar addresses to have boats picked up from i:e a business. - someones house is unwise.
Survey - with an oil/fluids test it is a must. Hurricane damage etc can be hidden but may show in a fluids test. 
Domestic transport is really really expensive.   
Whew - that's about it. I have no knowledge as yet to the home port fiasco - and fingers crossed it goes smooth..........
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Do you remember how many cube or your overall sizes of the boat were Gibbo ? And what hassles did you have here in NZ please - i'm working on the forewarned is forearmed scenario. 
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Hi Karuhi.The only measurements i have are on the bill of lading
2499.748 kg 67.072 m3. Alot of the figures are in lbs etc.The issues in Auck were more $$$ than anything.You get 3 days free on there port after 3 days they charged me $315 a day.The boat was unloaded on a friday mpi didnt inspect the boat till tuesday. At that point im paying . Mpi ordered the boat to be washed, i had the boat pro cleaned in the states and had all the paperwork to support that. The wash people couldnt do till thurs , mpi came back on fri to inspect.You cant pick any up on the weekend and the mon was a public holiday. At this point they want $1500 storage $650 unloading fee $112.50 to load boat and trailer on to Rowe mtrs transport trailer up front. The bit that pissed me the most the truck driver had to pay $15 exit fee so they would let him out of the port??
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Just looking at mine and the weight was 1850kgs and total CM3 is 58.26. For RORO service it cost me $11,461 NZD from Florida to Akl on a fairly direct route being under 3 weeks.

GST and duty is what it is so only relevant on sale price + shipping.

Same story as above. I was prepped and in Akl to pick up only to be mucked around trying to get out. Had the boat cleaned and drained in the US only to get hit with $990 in decontamination and $400 in "vacuuming". Damn thing still had leaves in it and a 50L tank of Florida fresh water when I picked it up so no idea what they actually did. 

All up, without gst and duty, the import cost me $15k NZD + the cost of the boat. There is some inland shipping in there so be aware. It's pretty expensive in the US, I was surprised. 
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