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    Posted: 29 May 2021 at 10:51am
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This is something I picked up on a post and makes SO Much sense not to share.

Boy I must be privileged. Let me describe how much:

1) I’m so privileged that I had both parents at home while I was growing up.
2) I am so privileged that my Father did not beat me up if he came home drunk.
3) I am so privileged that my Father never came home drunk.
4) I am so privileged that my Parents encouraged me to do well at school.
5) I am so privileged that I went to school every day, on time, and stayed at school all day, unless I was actually sick.
6) I am so privileged that I went to University for 5 years and worked my arse off because I wanted to do well and could not stand the thought of being a “Failed Student” when I was solely responsible for my own success or failure.
8) I am so privileged that after having failed some of my first year courses I worked extra hard to pass them the second time when I had to repeat them in my second year along with everything else in my second year which I also passed, Just.
7) I am so privileged that I saved my money and made sure I could pay my bills no matter what I had to do without.
8) I am so privileged that I did not put myself in stupid situations that were likely to see my running foul of the police.
9) I am so privileged that I chose friends that would be there for me like I would there for them.
10) I am so privileged that I put myself in position to take advantage of opportunities, even though they had risk attached, I backed myself to get through.
11) I am so privileged that I ground it out when it did get tough and never gave up, or make excuses.

Oh, by the way did any of the above 11 points mention my race or my gender?

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"Oh, by the way did any of the above 11 points mention my race or my gender?"
No, however, if you listen to the cancel culture woke PC brigade, those descriptions can only be applied to a person of European descent.
That is, "white".
Does not matter your ethnical makeup.


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Ya know Joker I completely agree with everything you wrote.... but there will be people out there just itching to lable you a racist.
Mike Hoskings was right yesterday in asking the question....
"What the hell is wrong with this country?"
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No, however, if you listen to the cancel culture woke PC brigade, those descriptions can only be applied to a person of European descent.
That is, "white".
Does not matter your ethnical makeup.

If you spend time with Asian and other families, you will find that their sense of hard work, not doing dumb stuff, respect,etc..All fall very well into all of the above...
Espec if the parents are not NZ born.

They will, privately, often be very critical of NZ born families (parents/ grandparents NZ born)
These ppl, just like Asian and, middle east etc, move to a new country to provide a better life for their children and eventually grandchildren, so make a big deal of these standards. But as the generations go down the 'memories ' of the 'old countries ' the respect, hard work, work ethics, then to go out the window.

We often see snippets of this when 2nd/ 3rd/ 25th/30th generations, of NZ born ppl move to other countries oversea for a better life...even when they have had a crap life here or not
Race, culture etc is not part of the equation.


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Thank you for the post Joker,
Sounds like a good upbringing there, mate.
I want to believe race or gender don't play card in a good upbringing but its a human nature to stereotype it.

We DONT get to choose where you were born, gender, parent, race, rich, etc.
life card its dealt and its up to you how to play that card.
My childhood and upbringing far from ideal but it make me who i am today instead of break me and I feel so privileged to say that.

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It’s quite interesting how we have reached this point. There are a few who saw it coming who warned what would happen to society in an age of political correctness.

Just started to read Thomas Sowell and here is a clip from 1995
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=waEc4YbQQX0

He goes back even further with this stuff.

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Perhaps the question too be asked...
As one of the white priveliged people, who can I blame if I'm broke, of my kids don't want to go to school, if I have a substance abuse problem that make me want to get violent..?
you can't fix an idiot with duct tape, but it does muffle them for a while...
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My privelages are great.

I was born.
I've had the opportunity to live.
I've grasped that opportunity to enjoy the riches, challenges, experiences, highs, lows and human foibles of living.
I'm still enjoying the privelage of life.

All win win for me.
Just cruising in my now sweetas pimped out Southern 755 HT0!
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Originally posted by Big -Dave Big -Dave wrote:

Perhaps the question too be asked...
As one of the white priveliged people, who can I blame if I'm broke, of my kids don't want to go to school, if I have a substance abuse problem that make me want to get violent..?

Once again, according to the woke PC brigade, only yourself.
Only those of colour  can use "lack of privilege" for their failure.
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I don't tick all those boxes, but most of them. I like Steps response and Mattoos. Don't dislike the others either. I take people as I find them. 

It's all about respect and decency, nothing to do with race. I really do enjoy  'the Maori fulla' type personality. I hope I always do
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Originally posted by Steps Steps wrote:

No, however, if you listen to the cancel culture woke PC brigade, those descriptions can only be applied to a person of European descent.
That is, "white".
Does not matter your ethnical makeup.

If you spend time with Asian and other families, you will find that their sense of hard work, not doing dumb stuff, respect,etc..All fall very well into all of the above...
Espec if the parents are not NZ born.

They will, privately, often be very critical of NZ born families (parents/ grandparents NZ born)
These ppl, just like Asian and, middle east etc, move to a new country to provide a better life for their children and eventually grandchildren, so make a big deal of these standards. But as the generations go down the 'memories ' of the 'old countries ' the respect, hard work, work ethics, then to go out the window.

We often see snippets of this when 2nd/ 3rd/ 25th/30th generations, of NZ born ppl move to other countries oversea for a better life...even when they have had a crap life here or not
Race, culture etc is not part of the equation.



"Race, culture etc is not part of the equation".
And nor should it be.
I think we can all agree on that.
However in NZ at this point in time, it is being made into a race debate.
What makes this worse, is it is being driven from the top.
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The Privileged List is pretty damn  privileged.
Then we have a semi list.
 Lets say you get down to around 6 and below..

All your life guidance ppl die.. grand parents, parents, family etc. you are on a roll.. then live just pulls the rug before your frontal lobes kick in.
The more or less neutralises  the res and things turn to custard for a decades or so.

Then thats when Fish4T post comes in...

life card its dealt and its up to you how to play that card.
My childhood and upbringing far from ideal but it make me who i am today instead of break me and I feel so privileged to say that.

One still gets to choose after direction goes rather 'sideways' and rebuild.. and its a total dump those around you, rebuild, friends, places, work, environment.. it a tough call to go out one ones own.. totally mid life.

Yet it is still a personal choice, not based on race, blaming who what where...but to bloody minded, rebuild and that takes a few decades...late start.. which end of the day..
You see your children do ok, more important your grandchildren do well...
One maybe on bones of their arse, but the contentment is huge
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Privileged,partly privileged, not privileged...the choice of where your grandchildren head is ones personal choice, not based on race or the actions of others  in this generation or those generations of the past.





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So often these days people seem to want to blame someone else for their problems/failures. An expectation that things should be a certain way - that suits them. And when its not, it is someone else's fault. Nothing to do with their choices.
We are breeding a culture of entitlement. Which simply leads to discontent when it is not met.
I feel very lucky and thank the things that got me here regularly.
Having said that I worked my A off thru years of Uni for the education I wanted, and worked my A off during holidays to support myself. I took risks (risked everything financially - make or break) and worked my A off setting myself up for a future. Years without a day off - literally.
I feel very lucky - to have the life I have. But you have to make your own luck.
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Cancel culture is based on reverse racism.
dont get my personality mixed up with my attitude,my personality is me,my attitude depends on you.
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What about the immigrants who come here with nothing, work hard and over the years make a good life for themselves and set their kids up for the future. I've seen in it over and over again. Consistently highest achieving kids at school are Asian. Personally, I wouldn't classify anyone by ethnicity. It should be irrelevant, but that is government data, not an opinion. If NZ is so damned racist, how is this possible?
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Originally posted by Alan L Alan L wrote:

So often these days people seem to want to blame someone else for their problems/failures. An expectation that things should be a certain way - that suits them. And when its not, it is someone else's fault. Nothing to do with their choices.
We are breeding a culture of entitlement. Which simply leads to discontent when it is not met.
I feel very lucky and thank the things that got me here regularly.
Having said that I worked my A off thru years of Uni for the education I wanted, and worked my A off during holidays to support myself. I took risks (risked everything financially - make or break) and worked my A off setting myself up for a future. Years without a day off - literally.
I feel very lucky - to have the life I have. But you have to make your own luck.
Alan


The great escape of the 21st century, has been the escape from personal responsibility....Tom Sowell 😂 read that the other day.
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And as soon as you escape personal responsibility you have a culture of no consequences and one of dependence - on others.
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Originally posted by Alan L Alan L wrote:

And as soon as you escape personal responsibility you have a culture of no consequences and one of dependence - on others.
Alan

So true & is typified by so many of today's youth inasmuch as they are well versed re their rights & privileges but relatively ignorant of the responsibilities that come with it.

When I had my own business had teenagers come knocking on the door asking for after school work  & I usually employed them  due to the fact that they appeared to be  enterprising.

As time went on I became increasingly disillusioned by the  realisation that being able to say they had a job was all that was important to them oblivious to the fact they had an obligation to give something in return .. such as a fair time actually working.  
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There are a lot of good kids out there that earnestly want to succeed.
But the creep in the margins of those that think things should be easier and they are entitled to whatever others have, seems to keep growing.
Rather than teaching self reliance we seem to be fostering the opposite.
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Originally posted by Alan L Alan L wrote:

And as soon as you escape personal responsibility you have a culture of no consequences and one of dependence - on others.
Alan


That is very true.
I always laugh at people who think they have rights to things like water, healthcare, housing, etc.
Anything of that nature that depends on the free will of other people making sure they get it or others paying for it is not a right.
There is a genuine call that all access to the internet should be “free” everywhere, anywhere. As another example.
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