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Ok then team, comment on this.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/boats-marine/motorboats/auction-729635748.htm
What do you think price correct ?
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You're not giving it away but as some one looking for my next boat in that range I would probably go for some thing like this for around $45k, but thats just me and everyone is different

 
Plenty of choice out there and plenty of time wasting buyers as well as sellers.
 
Most enquiries will be from people looking but dont have money or permission to buy.
 
Most sellers want the most money out of the boat that they can get, especially if upgrading they want to make the change without spending heaps.
 
If your boat is in immaculate condition and the trailer is perfect, low motor hours and well maintained then why not ask for a good price.
 
There are plenty of sellers trying to sell well used boats with rusted out trailers and old or no electronics and wanting what they paid for it or even more.
 
Good luck with the sale, if the offer on the bigger boat is good then you can afford to drop your price to make it work, but dont be rushed into selling if the gain isnt worth the price difference.
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I sold my boat for 12 but kept getting texts I have 10 cash will you take it. I was asking 14 I put it on the high side so I could get taken down. I just find it funny when people say they have cash it means that they still automatically be able to drop the price dramatically 
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that white pointer is very nice , surprised it hasn't sold
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Originally posted by CoastalStan CoastalStan wrote:

You're not giving it away but as some one looking for my next boat in that range I would probably go for some thing like this for around $45k, but thats just me and everyone is different

 
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notice the yard sticker of $52995 in photo 2? they have already sliced $8k off for trade me.

I find the whole buying/selling process absolutely frustrating in NZ. You put on what you believe is a fair price and buyers screw you down, so you bump it up a bit expecting to be screwed down to that fair price you initially believed and you get no interest. You put it up for a "i want rid of it" price, and the buyers STILL try and screw you down because they think you bumped it up from what you believe was a fair price thinking that you were expecting to be screwed down.

I usually go with a start bid of the minimum value I will accept, with a buy-now of what I want. Yet still I have people attempt to screw me down below the start price, even after someone else has placed a bid on the item.
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Cheers for that Coastal.
Yep in good nik, well maintained.
That White Pointer looks ok to, see it's dropped from 53K
It also appears to have 3 batteries.

In no hurry so can wait as see.

Ponty, only replies I've had have been texts or emails from cons.
One of the main reason I stopped using T&E, every add I put on there had every crook under the sun emailing.
Also the reason for my comment, if they can't afford to ring they can't afford to own a boat.

Guess i'll have to keep hand in pockets while at the boat show.
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Originally posted by Southern_Jez Southern_Jez wrote:

[QUOTE=CoastalStan]

I find the whole buying/selling process absolutely frustrating in NZ. You put on what you believe is a fair price and buyers screw you down, so you bump it up a bit expecting to be screwed down to that fair price you initially believed and you get no interest. You put it up for a "i want rid of it" price, and the buyers STILL try and screw you down because they think you bumped it up from what you believe was a fair price thinking that you were expecting to be screwed down.

I usually go with a start bid of the minimum value I will accept, with a buy-now of what I want. Yet still I have people attempt to screw me down below the start price, even after someone else has placed a bid on the item.


That to me is also the fairest way as it shows you are genuine in wanting to sell but if others feel its worth more to them, great.
Every auction either my wife of myself has even had has been the same way although my with has gone the start is buy now so its sold as soon as she get a "bid"
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Generally sellers need to get real in their expectations.

If a unit is 10 years old and halfway through its useful life then no way can they expect more than 50% of new price given that it is now into the expensive half of its life.

Often sellers are expecting closer to 75% of new which is nuts - it doesn't happen on cars so why do they think boats are different.
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you will still get more on trade me than you would from a dealer, if there is a demand for something then it will sell, if the goods don't stack up they wont sell. you get the best deal you can today, some times you win sometimes you lose, if you love fishing and boating then you will lose a fortune over your lifetime just accept it.
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People bagging Trademe here confuse me. What is the difference between TM and Ebay ? I use both. Are they both not auction sites. My gripe with TM are their fees ~ but that is another story entirely !
There is no such thing as "too much" for anything. A price is settled between a willing supplier and a willing buyer. Nobody is twisting anybody's arms here. You may FEEL that the guy is asking too much, but the very fact that YOU want it ~ puts the seller in the box seat. Your house may have a CV of $500,000 but if your land agent said that they could get $1,000,000 for it, would you be the one to say "No thanks, $500,000 is fair"?
I don't think so.
There ain't no such thing as fair
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I know of one car which has been on and off trade me for sale by the same person for a highly inflated price for probably 5 years now....
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Originally posted by Contract Contract wrote:

People bagging Trademe here confuse me. What is the difference between TM and Ebay ?Ebay's start is the reserve which is what I was saying was the fairest system I use both. Are they both not auction sites. My gripe with TM are their fees ~ but that is another story entirely !
There is no such thing as "too much" for anything. A price is settled between a willing supplier and a willing buyer. Agree totally Nobody is twisting anybody's arms here. You may FEEL that the guy is asking too much, but the very fact that YOU want it ~ puts the seller in the box seat. Your house may have a CV of $500,000 but if your land agent said that they could get $1,000,000 for it, would you be the one to say "No thanks, $500,000 is fair"?no but a no reserve would tell people that you are serious about selling regardless of the price, A no reserve price may well be set high but at least if you want it and am prepared to pay the asking price, its yours.
I don't think so.
There ain't no such thing as fair


I get brassed off with start prices of say $5000 when the reserve is say $10000. Its not illegal to do it but they have caused me to lose total interest in the auction.
Similar to links in this sites for sale part, cant be bothered looking as the beauty of buying from people on here is that you almost know them and trust that they will be honest in their dealings with you. The links are(to me) nothing more than unpaid for advertising that this sites owners get nothing for when the sellers are making money from it.

now days I rearly buy from TM but buy often from Ebay
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buyer must pick up.what bit dont people understand?who has time getting shipping prices
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How long do boats sit on trademe for?
Well we started looking in the 10 to 20K bracket around 2 years ago, finally brought just over a yr ago... but notice most of the boats that where there 2yrs ago still are... maybe discount a couple Ks.

If the boats that we short listed, these where fairly newish listings at the time, reasonble priced... ALL they had already brought their new replacement , or moved on to new horizons outside boating, and all (4) sold within a short time.
There are a lot on boat sales yards in this bracket, and still on the yard.

Another thing to consider is "is it just boats?"
No.. Im also into classic and muscle cars, since the recession started, these 2 have stopped moving, expect those of good quality and reasonable price (same as boats).. thu we are now just starting to see these move again....economy just starting to fire up, economic confidence highest been in years refects this.

Do boats market price change as per season change... well most ppl told me so, but follow the markets and no...its just more boats sell with better weather.. and not those that ppl ask top dollar for because they think the price goes up.

I think the boats that do move are those that pplk have brought and done their homework on the market before hand, brought solid boats at reasonable prices, and then flick off again at a reasonable price and usually of a better upgraded tidy quality...
No different than buying a house a little run down spend 35/45K on it and flick off later...or keep as a rental... those who get stuck. burnt havnt done their homework.
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When I want to sell something I generally use trade me and price to sell using either a no reserve or my min price as the start point. It always sells quickly when your realistic. And more often than not I get more than I expected. If the buyers intention is to re sell it good luck to them. When I want something I buy it. Yep probably could play around and get it cheaper but would rather be using it than looking for it. There are only so many sunny weekends in a year, I want to be fishing not looking at stuff to buy when they come around

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one thing is for sure, if you see a boat that is a good price or fairly priced they go quick.

ive missed out on a couple humming and harrring. now i know what is and isnt ideal its a lot easier to jump on something suitable.

im at the point where i just dont bother messaging someone who wants top dollar for an average or run down boat.
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i always prive my boats very realistically. lots of text offers on the ridiculous side which i ignore. first boat sold to first person to view it. second boat to the third person to view it, who then pit it on trademe for several thousand more.

buying is difficult. in some ways trademe has made it harder. prices all over the place and unrealistic sellers.
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i guess trademe is happy to just take the money for listing it.

the one thing i really dislike about trademe is the user experience. it seems to me they have no focus at a systems analysis perspective on UX. simple things like giving more options in the search engine. being able to list your saved favs by price or whatever else you choose. just little basics that in this day and age should be gimmes. makes the whole process of finding a boat, then comparing its value to others very onerous. also why when i limit my search to $5k do i get 20 plus boats above this price up to $20k as an example. just shoddy.

im with you CJ, i just price my gear at what is fair and usually below fair, if people are ridiculous i ignore them.

frustrating process buying at the bottom end of the market :-)

still kicking myself over a couple of boats i wasnt ready to jump on. thats life.
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Think fizz boats are unrealistic, try finding a reasonably priced run around equivalent keeler yacht on tardme.

That will let you inspect/haul etc.
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quite funny zambesi, my plan was to go from 50ft power boat to 12ft fishing boat and in another 24 months 30-40ft keeler for long range boating. thanks for the heads up.
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