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Nice post kimber7wsm!
Steps you have an amazing capacity to blow wind up your own back package, take a breath, close your browser and take some time to reflect on Smudges post pointing out the complaints he gets about you. 

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Here's something, let's have a tie off The loser gets a month in the bin, you or I. Money where our mouths are. Is that a deal?

I'll even let you set the terms.

 I have agreed several times over the last month or so, nothing eventuates..
 I have even had the scales and lathe set up .. can use your scales whatever.
 Yep the disputed knot, your upside down uni on the hook against my std snell and no knot snell.
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How fair would that be, 2 different knots, 2 different results.

Needs to be the same knots and see who can tie the most over a given time, then test them to see who gets the best results.
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Well the issue was is  A uni knot tied upside down as per Smudges video is a good knot..
I suggested that its not a good knot as the load crosses the line in the knot at 90 Deg and a proper Snell or no knot 'snell' would be a far better choice.

And thats when and what the  the proverbial hit the fan.
I ran tests and published but seems Smudge didnt accept that as kept on going.

So its a matter at what % each of the knots break at..

 I dont mind having a side completion as interest only of some other knots we both use, as interest.

 I also note the conservation went to ledgers and Figure 8 knots against the twisted loop. I didnt know if was, had never tested the 8 on a ledger so did so and published those as well. Turned out the 8 is a pretty good knot on ledger rig ..

The issue was Smudges upside down uni was a good knot  up with or over far better alternates..
And I prepared to 'put my money' where on Smudges claim.



 



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Originally posted by Steps Steps wrote:

Well the issue was is  A uni knot tied upside down as per Smudges video is a good knot..
I suggested that its not a good knot as the load crosses the line in the knot at 90 Deg and a proper Snell or no knot 'snell' would be a far better choice.

And thats when and what the  the proverbial hit the fan.
I ran tests and published but seems Smudge didnt accept that as kept on going.

So its a matter at what % each of the knots break at..

 I dont mind having a side completion as interest only of some other knots we both use, as interest.

 I also note the conservation went to ledgers and Figure 8 knots against the twisted loop. I didnt know if was, had never tested the 8 on a ledger so did so and published those as well. Turned out the 8 is a pretty good knot on ledger rig ..

The issue was Smudges upside down uni was a good knot  up with or over far better alternates..
And I prepared to 'put my money' where on Smudges claim.



 




Yeah na..... Your insightless, and clearly insecure. I dont think  anything anyone says will result in you undertaking some reflective introspection. 
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Originally posted by Steps Steps wrote:

Well the issue was is  A uni knot tied upside down as per Smudges video is a good knot..
I suggested that its not a good knot as the load crosses the line in the knot at 90 Deg and a proper Snell or no knot 'snell' would be a far better choice.

And thats when and what the  the proverbial hit the fan.
I ran tests and published but seems Smudge didnt accept that as kept on going.

So its a matter at what % each of the knots break at..

 I dont mind having a side completion as interest only of some other knots we both use, as interest.

 I also note the conservation went to ledgers and Figure 8 knots against the twisted loop. I didnt know if was, had never tested the 8 on a ledger so did so and published those as well. Turned out the 8 is a pretty good knot on ledger rig ..

The issue was Smudges upside down uni was a good knot  up with or over far better alternates..
And I prepared to 'put my money' where on Smudges claim.



 




As usual, not quite true Steps. I'll post up a thread all of our own and we'll take it away from here Smile
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Hi all. Got to agree with Tagit, don't load the generation 1 225hp Honda [awesome motors]with to much prop load, either diameter or pitch.
They like to rev freely and when they do will deliver outstanding fuel economy from idle to trolling to cruise RPMs. Note these comments refer to gen 1 motors with higher gearcase ratio than gen 2 V6 Hondas.
My boat 6.7m Glasscraft Statesman with 0.7m fibreglass pod sealed and bouyant. Heavy as f**k as it started out V8/sternleg. Rated 300hp OB / 400hp IB.
Brought 2nd hand 225 Honda less prop, so tried the following props -
15 1/4 x 16 3 blade Powertech 5100rpm WOT no good
15 1/4 x 15 4 blade Powertech 5200rpm WOT no good
Both brand new with Honda sales rep on board, we both disappointed and bemused with results
Next i try a mint Suzuki SS 14 1/4 x 16 3 blade, good but to much WOT 6000+rpm
So i went with Solas [Honda] 14 1/4 x 17 3 blade, standard Honda dealership fitted prop for the gen 1 225
Performance and economy were good WOT 5800rpm, but boat feels like a old Holden station wagon to drive
Then i acquired a mint Mercury Rev4 14 5/8 x 15 4 blade. Performance is excellent, slightly higher fuel consumption but ideally would drop motor a bolt hole or 2 for this prop, but boat feels like a rocket ship on rails, flies out of the hole, and stays hooked up in even the worst seas. My go to prop for bar crossings. WOT 5900rpm
Next i acquired an excellent Mercury Enertia 15 x 15 3 blade. WOW, what a prop! Game fish trolling 8L/h
at 7-8knots heavily loaded with fuel. Cruising 24-26 knots 30L/hr. WOT 5800rpm, boat feels like a sportscar to drive. Awesome out of the hole and stays hooked up almost as good as the Rev4
So i sold the Solas and kept the Rev4 and Enertia
Conclusion - Buy a new or used 225 or 250hp Honda, bite the bullet and pay for an Enertia prop pitched to suit your hull [not the Enertia ECO, its a bigger diameter prop designed for twin/triple/quad outboards] and you will be a happy boatieSmileSmileSmileSmile
And Steps, please don't start overthinking this, you may give yourself a brain anurisim
I have done extensive on water testing and recorded data, but don't wish to bore everyone to tears
Tight lines all
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There is no over thinking there
As have always said, get height right then sort the slip then the pitch.
You noticed as the load reduces, Slip starts to correct, then once that sorted adjusted rpms with pitch last.Thumbs Up
And it is very rare that someone actually can regonise these things by water testing.

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Hmm cant edit ad to post above..strange.. looking above posts seems in the wrong thread
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Hi all
Thread started about V6 Hondas and how to prop them.....refer page 1
Just adding my thoughts to that topicLOLLOLLOLLOL
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Thread was about V6 Honda propping.....refer page 1
Just adding my thoughts to that topicLOLLOLLOL
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So big Dave put your duck tape back on because now getting 7.5kts to 8.5lph and I didn't extend the boat just changed the prop. So thanks for the smart ass comment but I'm happy to say you were wrong I can get 7.5lph doing just under 7kts like 6.8kts so muffle away mate haha .
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Got it sorted mate it was the prop size we running just nice now
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Originally posted by Gibby2 Gibby2 wrote:

So big Dave put your duck tape back on because now getting 7.5kts to 8.5lph and I didn't extend the boat just changed the prop. So thanks for the smart ass comment but I'm happy to say you were wrong I can get 7.5lph doing just under 7kts like 6.8kts so muffle away mate haha .
7.5 kts to 8.5lph?? that is a **** load of fuel to burn
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Originally posted by Gibby2 Gibby2 wrote:

So big Dave put your duck tape back on because now getting 7.5kts to 8.5lph and I didn't extend the boat just changed the prop. So thanks for the smart ass comment but I'm happy to say you were wrong I can get 7.5lph doing just under 7kts like 6.8kts so muffle away mate haha .


Really happy for ya..
I can't be arsed going back to see whatever comment was so smart arsed..
you can't fix an idiot with duct tape, but it does muffle them for a while...
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Originally posted by Big -Dave Big -Dave wrote:

Originally posted by Gibby2 Gibby2 wrote:

So big Dave put your duck tape back on because now getting 7.5kts to 8.5lph and I didn't extend the boat just changed the prop. So thanks for the smart ass comment but I'm happy to say you were wrong I can get 7.5lph doing just under 7kts like 6.8kts so muffle away mate haha .


Really happy for ya..
I can't be arsed going back to see whatever comment was so smart arsed..

I'm guessing Gibby has read your signature text as part of a reply to his question Big Dave. Your posts are fine.
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