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These are one of the best that I have come accross and I have 3 of them.
1 At Coromandel and 2 at home.
My daughter has just moved out of home and bought her own home and wanted one of these knives as they are always sharp and easy to resharpen.
Problem is I cant find anyone selling them around Auckland and she will end up stealing one of mine.

Anyone in Auckland know when I may be able to get them?
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I am 90% certain Green River is E Goddards second brand.  Their 1st being Victory.  So same knives just have 2 brands to satisfy the market.  Action Outdoors would be the ones to talk to to confirm or deny this.
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Thanks Gspot
You are correct they do sell the Victory and Victory make Green River but they dont sell the Green River.
I will call in and see how similar they are.
Thanks for your help
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Green River made awesome carbon steel skinning knives......don't know if they still do.
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I really like the Diogenes st/st filleting knives but I only see them second hand....anyone know where they come from?

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I searched high and low, in March of this year, via the internet  in an attempt to get another Green river bull nose high carbon knife. I even emailed the sales manager at Goddard,  offering to pay to have one made.... but never received a response. It appeared to me they have moved out of the green river line and concentrate on the victory knives,which is a pity.
 I eventually brought a Shun 8 inch blue steel Kiritsuke, which has a high carbon core sheathed in stainless on both sides.  Stunning knife, unfortunately at a price to match.
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I have green river knives going back to the late 60s  early 70s... pre SS straight high carbon wood handles .
 And several more carving filleting. Yes world wide famous, made by Goddards in Auckland. World famous because of quality and had the US marines knife bayonet conract in the WW2.
 The green river brand had been their premium for around 100yrs till couple yrs back stopped it and built the victory commercial knife brand to meat works etc.

There is a retail fishing outlet in Hamilton that stocked the old green river knives, and still had them up to a few months ago... and most properly still have stock
 The Clearance Shed, Pukekohe and manukau still have stock that I know of.

 It is my understanding they are the same steels.. but when comparing my high carbon stainless green river to my victory, they do seem a little different when honing, and life of the edge... nothing significant thu.. may just be my perception and preference.

I have found with all the GR knives, once the original ground edge /burr has gone and needs reshaping, re forming not on a stone but re hand grinding a convex edge by stropping has a far sharper and far longer lasting edge.
If one looks close at very expensive working knives.. usually hand made they have a stropped convex edge rather than a ground stone edge.

 The Diogenes, is rather the steel grade than the brand.. a steel made by Solingen.. yes a have a couple those knives 2 which includes a WW2 german dress bayonet. Was chatting to a knifemaker several months back and he said the Solingen diogenes steel knives are being imported and/ or distributed by a retail fishing gear crowd down Tauranga/ mount way.
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Another awesome knife maker is svord,based in waiuku. My nephew works there and some of the knives they make are very hi quality. Made from hi carbon old saw blades.
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Dexter Russell have a Green River Brand of knives. I take it these are different to what you are looking for?
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I have a Green River knife. love it
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Clearance Shed - seriously!
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Originally posted by Fish Addict Fish Addict wrote:

Dexter Russell have a Green River Brand of knives. I take it these are different to what you are looking for?


I dont know.
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Originally posted by MightyBoosh MightyBoosh wrote:

Clearance Shed - seriously!

I went to the one in Henderson and bought one but its the smaller blade. They only had the 2 left. I will try the Manukau store next weekend as Im flat out this weekend.
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Clearance Shed - seriously!

 Yep they have been stocking them for around 3 to 4 yrs now.
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I got the one I wanted at Norcross but will still check out Clearance shed in Manukau

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Originally posted by Fish Addict Fish Addict wrote:

Dexter Russell have a Green River Brand of knives. I take it these are different to what you are looking for?

Definitely. Those are US-made knives, and still do carbon steel with wooden handles, the classic old school knife. I got one via an Australian stockist.

This place sells the other NZ Green River knives, but mostly boning etc by the looks of it.


I have visited this shop in person on the North Shore - amazing selection, including a lot of Victory knives.

And I've also been to the Victory factory in Mt Wellington, and they sell at lower cost than full retail over the counter. The ladies dug out a carbon steel one for me after a lot of patient searching. They only take cash though, not EFTPOS or credit card.

For anyone who's interested, any Victory knife made from 'carbon steel' (not stainless) has a serial number starting with the number 1.
e.g. 1/710/15/115
Anything starting with a number other than 1 will be stainless, not 'carbon' steel.


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Originally posted by fish-feeder fish-feeder wrote:

Another awesome knife maker is svord,based in waiuku. My nephew works there and some of the knives they make are very hi quality. Made from hi carbon old saw blades.

I just wish they were easier to sharpen. The 'convex' machined blade shape means they need to be sharpened in a different way to a standard blade, and for someone without a high skill level in sharpening (ie. me, who uses one of the sharpening contraptions that sharpen other blades really well), it's not an easy skill to master correctly.
I've watched mouse pad and sand paper tutorials on YouTube, but just can't get the hang of it.
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Originally posted by The Tamure Kid The Tamure Kid wrote:

Originally posted by Fish Addict Fish Addict wrote:

Dexter Russell have a Green River Brand of knives. I take it these are different to what you are looking for?


Definitely. Those are US-made knives, and still do carbon steel with wooden handles, the classic old school knife. I got one via an Australian stockist.



Thanks for the clarification. I thought that may be the case. I have found this company has a good selection of knives.

http://www.everten.com.au/knives.html
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I've watched mouse pad and sand paper tutorials on YouTube, but just can't get the hang of it.

mouse pad.. thats like trying to sharpen a King Arturs  sword on a match box

It takes a bit of work  because you are going from a flat grind.. as in a stone to a round/ elliptical on the edge.
 Have a close look at the svord custom type knives.. the whole edge is convex not just the very edge.
 "The 'secret' is in the burr"
 basically you form a fine burr on the edge before turning to to the other side.. ALWAYS form the burr. Convex edge , if you start with about a 800 grit wet n dry sheet sand paper clipped to a sheet of reasonably firm neoprene type sponge.
 Wet the sand paper.
 Then if a working / boning knife hard steel  about a 30 deg angle and draw back, with a slight twist as come off the tip.. pull back (strop like as in a cut throught razor)..
light press ure around 20 times, feel for the burr forming .. burr formed , proceed to the othe side, the back
 Till you have formed the orginal flat ground edge into a fully formed convex edge.
 Now you are ready to actually put the fine edge on
 Same as above.. the 800 grit is very smooth by now.. or use 1200 or 1600 grit..
 except this time very little weight, 5 strops one side check for the burr, 5  other side check for burr.. now 4 and 4  then 3 and 3 then 2 and 2   then 10 alternating .. weight of the knife only.

When edge gets dull , and dont wait till actually dull.. 10 or 20 alternating strops ...

If want get real sharp.. which for general use is a waste of time, unless intend to have a shave.. a leather barbers strop with fine cutting grit worked in to the leather..

 PS if wanting to get that 1st ground angler right start with one of those draw thru sharpeners.. form the basic angle then proceed.

 
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