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    Posted: 11 Nov 2014 at 7:31am
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I saw a couple of dudes on the weekend drift fishing from a boat around Matakana Island. One of them was throwing a fly but the other was throwing a piper. Now this has me interested. What rod and reel set up would you use to throw piper around?
And what rig would you use to be able to throw that piper 30 odd time without it coming off?
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stitch it up like a marlin pitch bait 
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Yup, stitch it up and chuck her out. I do this quite often. Around Matakana Island too actually. Have managed 3 kings this way. It's a good way to use piper when there are no live ones to catch anymore. Have also just chucked in a dead piper amongst the big mess that occurs when a kingie is chasing the schools of piper and they just lap it up. 
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Fresh piper is kingfish candy....shiny as.....live bait hook straight up through the head and snap the beak off........15kg rig is ideal..,,,black magic 7/0 live bait hook quite good too.
Once the idiots turn up..Im outta here...No time for Drama Queens.
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When I was younger we used to fish piper a lot for kings, a $30 popper was far to expensive. we would snap the bill off use a 10/0 snapper hook placed up through the chin and out the top of the head with the point exposed,  we would bind the shank of the hook to the broken bill with bait elastic or a twisti tie.

We skip these baits, but done right they would swim well also.

Technique was to hold the rod high and drop the rod to fish on the bite ( giving it a rod length of line to get the bait down, no bait runner freespool etc) and then setting the hook.... if fish are pulling the body off the head your doing it wrong.

We mostly fished 10-15kg mono and did well on 10-20kg fish around the inshore reefs and marker bouys from a 10ft dingy, the fish don't get as fired up when there is only a single hook in their mouth instead of two trebles. So with a bit of boat driving and leading techniques are quite manageable
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doesnt every fisherman cast dead pipers?

double snell rig circle hook rig, strategic bait lastic to keep bait in tact. or alternative octoupus double hook setup setup the same as a snell rig.

of if you wanna do it how its meant to be done, flexible gng hook, id only use 3 max, and use the bait cotton around the gills.


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3 hook gang Dead...maybe useful for spanish mackeral and species we don't get in NZ.
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