8 foot 6 plus stickbait rod?

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I'm looking at getting a longer stickbait rod, preferably 8 foot 6 plus for land based stickbaiting. Will be matched to a twinpower 10,000 with 65lb jerry borwn hollow, most of my lures are around the 100-130gram mark.
I'm currently using a 7 foot 6 offshore which is great, but I'm after a bit more distance and clearance, plus the longer rod can make it easier to work lures from elevated ledges. 

Don't really want to spend much more than $5-600.

I've seen there's an 8 foot 7 Tenryu Spike Tuna which has good specs..Any suggestions on rods, or even blanks?

The other option is to just grab a much cheaper 8ft3 backbone elite top water. 
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Pretty hard trying to get a good sweep with a long rod from the bricks in most places. I wouldn't go much longer than 8'

If it's the lighter offshore Illusion, keep it, you won't get much better IMO. Best blanks for the bricks. I think you will find their 7'6" is closer to 8'. I'm sure they could do you a custom at 8'6", they do a 8'6" but think it's heavier.
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Originally posted by jac23 jac23 wrote:

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Cheers mate, will check it out. 
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Originally posted by fish i fish i wrote:

Pretty hard trying to get a good sweep with a long rod from the bricks in most places. I wouldn't go much longer than 8'

If it's the lighter offshore Illusion, keep it, you won't get much better IMO. Best blanks for the bricks. I think you will find their 7'6" is closer to 8'. I'm sure they could do you a custom at 8'6", they do a 8'6" but think it's heavier.

The offfshore I have is the 100-200gm model, and is about 7 foot 8 in reality. I'll still be hanging on to it though, I use it quite a bit for stickbaiting from the IRB, love the acttion both for working lures and when hooked up. 

I used to have one of their 24-37kg 8 foot 6 models but it was very stiff, designed more for poppers (Think it was made before stick baits started to get popular) and didn't swim stickbaits very well. Also a killer on the back when hooked up. 

Good point about getting a custom from them, might have to flick them an email. 

Interesting comments on longer rods on ledges, I guess it depends on the ledge, I think a longer rod would be better on some of the more elevated ledges. One of my mates has recently imported a 10 foot rod from japan, will have to see how he gets on with it. 

I've found a 9 foot 6, pe6 Daiwa saltist rod that looks like it might do the job, although they don't seem to stock them over here. 
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Bit more than $5-600.

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I have one of these and it is excellent
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There is a 9'6" 50–120gm Demonblood that the Morning Tide boys rate, I think they are using lighter lures, but once again I don't think Daiwa bring them in to NZ.
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Yeah mate, I reckon the closer to the water level the easier it is to swim baits. So if you are on a high ledge having a longer rod is good rationale which I can understand. I just find having a rod that is to long is difficult to sweep down to the side as a lot of places will see it making contact with the rocky terrain. 

These are the blanks the Offshore illusions are made on, I see they have a 8'3", but that's not actually a huge difference I guess. http://ctsfishing.com/product/seamaster-stickbait/
Offshore Rodworx has changed hands now. 

Check out some of the Japanese shore jigging rods. These come in all sorts of longer lengths and many would be multipurpose to stickbaiting. Rods like Zenaq and Yamaga are meant to be awesome but are xxxxy 
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Put a wanted post in the Buy & Sell section - someone may have a suitable rod they would part with. I was lucky enough to score a Shimano 86SM Ocean Bluefin rod a couple years back, 8'6" and very powerful. There might be another round but not sure if you'd get one for your budget. 
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Originally posted by LBGer LBGer wrote:

Put a wanted post in the Buy & Sell section - someone may have a suitable rod they would part with. I was lucky enough to score a Shimano 86SM Ocean Bluefin rod a couple years back, 8'6" and very powerful. There might be another round but not sure if you'd get one for your budget. 

In my searches I saw you used to have a Tenryu rod a while back, how did you rate it?
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It was very light but seemed a bit soft in the action, it may have been a different folding design compared to other rods I've bent. nice finish and they have a following so they can probably handle the jandal....
There is a 86SM on GT popping (2nd page) that is advertised for $650, a screaming deal considering they retail for $1400 http://www.gtpopping.com/forum/index.php/topic,7317.0.html
I have a Shimano Tiralejo 9ft 2 piece that is rated for 30-65lb braid, I have bent 10kg of drag over it. I bought it specifically for light stick bait and general bait fishing duties and rate it as a good general purpose rod. If you were going to fish 65lb hard it wouldnt really suit, it's probably more a 50lb rod for the upper range.....
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Have you thought about the OTI 8'6" 40-60lb rod? Smart Marine used to stock them, they were perfect for the rocks I had 2 of them. They can handle way more than their rated drag rating and are pretty tough blanks. 
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Bit of a thread resurrection, took delivery of a Japanese rod today. Ended up getting this through the Plat summer sale. 

Tailwalk Okinawa Mankiba

Specs are 10 foot, up to pe8 and 150 gram lures.



It will be interesting to see how much extra casting distance the longer rod gives me. Hopefully enough to make the back pain from the extra length when hooked up worth while. 
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Some good sales on plat atm. I ended up buying oh major craft rod for softies at 50% off. Good luck with the rod mate
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PE 8? That will slay the snapper without much bending :)
What's the action like from just handling it on land?
There aren't too many rods around that length that dont cost an arm and a leg. The Zenaq's have some longer rods, I am thinking about getting a blank (9ft, PE 6) and getting it made up. I have a JM shore jigger that's rated to 13kg but thats at 45 deg and bending like it's going to snap....
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It's fairly parabolic, there's a picture of one loaded up with 10kg here http://tailwalk.jp/english/salt/okinawamanbika/

The tip is probably slightly stiffer than my old offshore, but it should be sweet for stickies 100gm and above. 
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