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Originally posted by Aaron32987 Aaron32987 wrote:

Bloody good fish, got a photo?
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Originally posted by segador segador wrote:

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awesome mate you can stop any king that swims the ocean now you wont be disapointedThumbs Up
any good sized king won't give a hoot about ya fancy new rod, and will do it's best to find a weak link somewhere in the chain. Fish shallow reefs with top end lures that you can't afford to loose, best form of gambling ever invented.
well the 40 kilo king i just caught gave a hoot when it got stoped in its tracks in 15m of water with that rod LOL
The fight was not long but troy had some massive drag on the fish and for most of the fight was just pinned to the rail trying not to get pulled in!....sounds like you were gambling to me LOL
i didnt say it was easy still stopped it though would have no chance with crap gear not really a gamble just confident in my gear 
yeah righto, "knotflash" has bought a great rod, no question. Given he's new to the sport I thought I might shed some light on the fact that now he can focus on all the other elements.
And the awesome fun to be had. There's a thousand scenarios where that 40kg could have had you busted, like if you'd been catching fish all day, would your leader to lure knot still be 100%, or would have you re-tied, but at what point? what if the other 2 fish were still on, and you couldn't have been "backed hard" off the reef, bla bla bla. Surely as informed and practised as you are, you can understand these things.I stand by my words, the fish don't give a hoot about brands, for them it converts to one thing....resistance. Some times maximum resistance is not the answer, and basically can be little dull if you're not into the larger specimens. I bow humbly at your feet, as although |I've had 1/2 doz in the mid 30's I've not had a 40+. You are the king. 
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Haha I'm no king and by far no expert just got lucky on the dAy but I'm glad I had a carpenter you can count on your hands the amount of fish over 40 that have been caught on topwater in nz and a lot of those have been caught on carpenter rods I wonder how many fish that size have been lost due to poor gear I would say a few
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Originally posted by segador segador wrote:

Haha I'm no king and by far no expert just got lucky on the dAy but I'm glad I had a carpenter you can count on your hands the amount of fish over 40 that have been caught on topwater in nz and a lot of those have been caught on carpenter rods I wonder how many fish that size have been lost due to poor gear I would say a few
 it's also harder to entice over 40's with poor gear, big n fussy.   
yeah it would seem carpenter has a more then a good market share in the NZ stickbait scene, prob mostly thanks to the hard work from ya mates at Yeehaa, but as mentioned previous on the thread there's many manufacturers that do a quality product. 

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Carpenter have good marketing thats for sure. Theres are other brands just as good though for less $$ IMO.
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Originally posted by MarkE MarkE wrote:

Carpenter have good marketing thats for sure. Theres are other brands just as good though for less $$ IMO.


Not too sure what you mean by that MarkE? i havnt noticed carpenter sponsoring big tv shows or adds....

What we have seen is a lot of massive fish been caught on Carpenter rods and lures and well that speaks for its self. no marketing needed.

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Sponsoring TV shows and big ad campaigns are only one aspect of marketing, in the current environment,  social marketing is lilely to have better penetration to your market.
 
I think Carpenter have a very good grasp on the economics of supply and demand, by limiting supply the exponentially increase demand, they are also a company the specialise in topwater equipment, and have done so for a long time.
 
I think there is no doub that  they produce very good gear, they also produce stuff that has obtained a cult status. ( sea frogs) The reality in my mind is there are other companies who also produce very good top water gear, and they shouldnt be discounted when considering your options.
 
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Originally posted by PE Pete PE Pete wrote:

Originally posted by knotflash knotflash wrote:

Thanks for the advice. I just purchased a brand new shiny Carpenter BLC 83/35R Power Max!

Cheers Yeehaa and Luke for all your help. Much appreciated.

Nice one mate they are beasts I've got the 83/40 & still haven't maxed it out. What reel you planing on putting on it?
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I haven't worked out which reel yet mate. It's a tricky one. 

I've been thinking Stella 18000 or Daiwa Saltiga 6500H or even Daiwa Dogfight... Dogfight seems a bit overkill but I think I would rather be over gunned in case I do the odd Mayor Island or Three Kings Mission. It's still lighter than the Stella 18000 too. Some people will say Stella 14000 or Daiwa 5000 I guess but the rod can handle more than that from what I understand?

What's your thoughts? Whats on your 83/40?
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Saltiga Expedition 5500H is the reel you want IMO
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i just went through the whole buying a carpenter rod thing a few weeks back and decided to match it with a stella 14k even though i already had  an 18k as i wanted a lighter reel for casting all day. the thing that swung me was that the drag power of the 14 and 18k are the same at a drag power of 25.
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Go with the swb14000 or saltiga 5500. You will fit 300m PE6, perfect for the rod and the rod will balance really nice.
I have a sw10000 with swb14000 spool running PE6 matched to my BLC80/35 and when i put my sw20000 on it, it just doesn't feel rite for how light the rod is IMO
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Originally posted by knotflash knotflash wrote:


I haven't worked out which reel yet mate. It's a tricky one. 

I've been thinking Stella 18000 or Daiwa Saltiga 6500H or even Daiwa Dogfight... Dogfight seems a bit overkill but I think I would rather be over gunned in case I do the odd Mayor Island or Three Kings Mission. It's still lighter than the Stella 18000 too. Some people will say Stella 14000 or Daiwa 5000 I guess but the rod can handle more than that from what I understand?

What's your thoughts? Whats on your 83/40?


Go the Saltiga 5500h expedition... You won't be disappointed. When the 14k and that are sitting side by side, I'd pick that up first every time.
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I use an 18k with my 83/40 from the rocks and boat. It does get tiring and I'd go with a lighter reel if I did it again today. Either that or harden up.
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Originally posted by Structfab Structfab wrote:

Saltiga Expedition 5500H is the reel you want IMO

Yea I looked at this. Has a good review even from Alan Hawk. The drag is 15kg though? Enough for topwater in shallows?? Whats everyones opinion?
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Originally posted by knotflash knotflash wrote:

Originally posted by PE Pete PE Pete wrote:

Originally posted by knotflash knotflash wrote:

Thanks for the advice. I just purchased a brand new shiny Carpenter BLC 83/35R Power Max!

Cheers Yeehaa and Luke for all your help. Much appreciated.

Nice one mate they are beasts I've got the 83/40 & still haven't maxed it out. What reel you planing on putting on it?
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I haven't worked out which reel yet mate. It's a tricky one. 

I've been thinking Stella 18000 or Daiwa Saltiga 6500H or even Daiwa Dogfight... Dogfight seems a bit overkill but I think I would rather be over gunned in case I do the odd Mayor Island or Three Kings Mission. It's still lighter than the Stella 18000 too. Some people will say Stella 14000 or Daiwa 5000 I guess but the rod can handle more than that from what I understand?

What's your thoughts? Whats on your 83/40?

I started out with a Stella 18k but have down sized to 10K SW with Amigo casting braid PE6. This after doing top water all day with the 18K & realising for a slight decrease in max drag & spool cap I can fish all day with the 10K
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Originally posted by knotflash knotflash wrote:

Originally posted by Structfab Structfab wrote:

Saltiga Expedition 5500H is the reel you want IMO

Yea I looked at this. Has a good review even from Alan Hawk. The drag is 15kg though? Enough for topwater in shallows?? Whats everyones opinion?
 
try lifting a 15kg weight off the rod tip - its a lot more than you think...
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Whats wrong with Ripple Fisher rods?, have they been mentioned?.
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Originally posted by knotflash knotflash wrote:

Originally posted by Structfab Structfab wrote:

Saltiga Expedition 5500H is the reel you want IMO

Yea I looked at this. Has a good review even from Alan Hawk. The drag is 15kg though? Enough for topwater in shallows?? Whats everyones opinion?
yeah it's plenty on a stick bait rod, a short jigging rod you hold a bit more, but 15 for topwater is heaps. p.s I'm totally bias in that department as use a Saltiga 5000H with the same max drag rating.

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Originally posted by snag snag wrote:

Whats wrong with Ripple Fisher rods?, have they been mentioned?.
don't seem to have the following here. Fished Ranfurly with a bunch of guys from Asia who had heaps of them, nice rods, no question
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