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    Posted: 18 May 2010 at 5:58pm
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Right looking for a new popper rod to flick stick baits and poppers around the place,
 
what are your thoughts, didnt really find much in other posts, i had a play with a  GT86 today and a shimano something, and have fished the xzoga that mozza had, but whats your thoughts on rods,
 
 
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Slower action required for Stick baits Sam. look at the Carpenter or the new Tuna Stick Bait rods from Synit.
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make me an offer for that xzoga bro. otherwise I am sending home a 100g and a 200g popper rod built on smiths blanks I could be tempted to flick
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Hots Gipang 79XH  (short twitching special)Winkbut be prepared to pay  way over 1k 
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Im in the market for a Poper/Stick Rod myself and the choices seem endless.
 
Can someone point ot the difference between a popper and stickbate rod
 
Is there a cross over rodd out there or am I realitically looking at two setups to run either a popper or stick bait :)
 
PS there are only so many rods im allowed !
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Lance... Ripple Fisher make a great cross over stick for popping/stickbaits. Called a GT79R
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Man, I wish you guys could see the popper rods Kilwell are making for export. They are so very very nice, I have been playing with them in the Sols for the last 18mnths or so, just awesome. Same sort of technology as the high-end jig rods they are making now.


I have mine modified slightly for shorter rod butts as i like to have the rod butt ending at around my elbow when holding it in my casting hand so it doesn't dig in the ribs or catch sleeves or anything. That one pictured there is the lighter (20lb) set they let me try.
Just an awesome rod.
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I cannot afford those expensive rods so i fish with a cheap Pioneer GT Striker 7'3 and caught GTs up to 32kg.Not bad for a $55 rod and cheap aussie Trade Me braid.Can't post photo but as soon as i have enough posts i will.Those rods are really strong and i cast 150 to 200 gram poppers with ease.
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check out the Jigging Master Monster GT 79 special.  Hellishly tough and reasonably priced around $850.
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just a question here, but what is or was wrong with the rods we used only a few years back? the Diawa 80j comes to mind as do the Kilwells and the original butterworth Jig king, like I said just a question.
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I have never been lucky enough to own a butterworth but have had the others you mention. difference,s as I remember it is you get a huge longer cast out of the new purpose designed rods and that stiffness also helps when you work the stickbait. The 80J in particular would IMHO be a little soft in the tip to impart the correct action. Fine for pitch and heaving poppers with a steady rate of return

Just what I have seen and felt after quite a few trips with guys that seem to know what they are doing.


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Originally posted by saffayakker saffayakker wrote:

I cannot afford those expensive rods so i fish with a cheap Pioneer GT Striker 7'3 and caught GTs up to 32kg.Not bad for a $55 rod and cheap aussie Trade Me braid.Can't post photo but as soon as i have enough posts i will.Those rods are really strong and i cast 150 to 200 gram poppers with ease.

Hey mate i've got that same cheap rod but don't have a reel for it yet.
What did you end up putting on yours?
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Originally posted by Blue Asparagus Blue Asparagus wrote:

just a question here, but what is or was wrong with the rods we used only a few years back? the Diawa 80j comes to mind as do the Kilwells and the original butterworth Jig king, like I said just a question.

I have used a butterworth jig king, a great rod. A good analogy might be looking at what can be achieved with a 4/0 reel these days. Nothing wrong with the old 4/0 penn reels just advancements in knowledge and technology have made modern size 4/0 reels a better reel.
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Originally posted by Blue Asparagus Blue Asparagus wrote:

just a question here, but what is or was wrong with the rods we used only a few years back? the Diawa 80j comes to mind as do the Kilwells and the original butterworth Jig king, like I said just a question.
Nothing really wrong with the old gear, people are always looking for  rods that -
  • lighter because you pop ALL DAY.
  • cast further
  • work the popper/stickbait better

there is always a development stage in getting tooled up for a different fishing form.  Take a look at the jigging rods and reels and how far they have come in just 3 -4 years.  Take a look at youself and the tackle you have brought since you started jigging.  If you thought that was unbelieveable progress then be prepared for even more because popping is even more addictive and definately more expensive.

Popping at the highest level is targetting GT's, Tuna and billfish exceeding 100kg.   The gear needs to be good enough to cast giant 200g lures and tough enough to land VW sized reef donkeys.
This is blue water angling at a very high level.  We are very fortunate having a decent Marlin fishery where we can tease them up enough to throw a lure at them.  It will be done, and sooner than later.  Could be your next challenge BA Thumbs Up    
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cheers guys, yeah a challenge it will be, will have a look at these new rods etc and go from there next challenge is a sword on the fin-nor, prep done waiting on a weather window and a dedicated crew 
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Originally posted by Photofisha Photofisha wrote:

Originally posted by saffayakker saffayakker wrote:

I cannot afford those expensive rods so i fish with a cheap Pioneer GT Striker 7'3 and caught GTs up to 32kg.Not bad for a $55 rod and cheap aussie Trade Me braid.Can't post photo but as soon as i have enough posts i will.Those rods are really strong and i cast 150 to 200 gram poppers with ease.

Hey mate i've got that same cheap rod but don't have a reel for it yet.
What did you end up putting on yours?
I use a Daiwa Sealine Bull at the moment, but it is abit too heavy.Looking at a Fin-Nor at the moment either 5500 or 6500 loaded with 30 0r 40 lb braid.
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SaffaYakker, Google Daiwa exceller 6000 size, they look like a an extremely good value reel....
 
A king on the bricks is worth 5 in a boat.
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this looks like a good deal....

A king on the bricks is worth 5 in a boat.
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