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Kiribati,




A tiny South Pacific nation has shocked the fishing world by revealing without warning that it has forced most of the American tuna fleet out of its vast waters and is letting Chinese and Taiwanese boats take over.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/10603447/Kiribati-deal-shocks-fishing-world


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Just shocking and unbelievable..!! They are crazy..!! 😈😈😈
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Money talks and Tuna walk... bad news for everyone's tuna TBH. 
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That where i am working at the moment. At it all true, the chinese boats are plundering the the stocks. Last year we had a ball catching YFT from 10lb to 114lb from small 5 meter ply boats about 7 miles from land, sometimes only a hundred meters from the reef. This year i manage only 2 until today.
The current president is also half chinese and his term runout in January next year i think. So he got to fill that offshore bank accounts to the brim as his time is running out. Every local here want the boats to go but what can they do? NOTHING!!!!!! Corruption is so high here it's unbelievable. They just gave the fisheries officer a few $$$$$$, some whiskey and a young girl will sort him for a day or 2 on the boat and he sign off any paper or catch certificate infront of him. His wages is only $100+ a fortnight and few hunderd under the table will make him doing anything.
Hopefully a new government or president will stop it but you never knows. Money talks here!!!
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And they(23 boats) turned up in droves. Tuna will not last long here.
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Perhaps the governments concerned should halt all foreign aid to that region .......... see how that pans out in the long run when the tuna are all but wiped out. I'ts just corruption and greed, no surprises really.
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Originally posted by A C A C wrote:

Perhaps the governments concerned should halt all foreign aid to that region .......... see how that pans out in the long run when the tuna are all but wiped out. I'ts just corruption and greed, no surprises really.
from what i can see nz is the main aid provider followed by australia.
look at our fisheries state,do you think our government will look after theirs??
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Originally posted by pjc pjc wrote:

Originally posted by A C A C wrote:

Perhaps the governments concerned should halt all foreign aid to that region .......... see how that pans out in the long run when the tuna are all but wiped out. I'ts just corruption and greed, no surprises really.
from what i can see nz is the main aid provider followed by australia.
look at our fisheries state,do you think our government will look after theirs??


My point exactly......... NZ can do better with foreign aid after having the nose rubbed in it, NZ have / had an interest in fishing that region.......... perhaps not much longer.
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China would replace and likely quadruple any of NZs aid in an instant, and would pretty much own the whole place outright. Only way to prevent this would be for nz to match the size of the personal payments made to the officials there, as well as any new hospitals, roads etc etc etc that China have also given them.
The fix is in, china will keep on buying these tiny states, gunna keep happening as long as these states are so prone to corruption. Sorry, is it called Koha?
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In the good old days the colonialists (many of our ancestors) just rolled up with some warships and took what they wanted. These days the Chinese 'colonialists' roll up with bags of gold. If you look at it through Chinese eyes, who is really the most evil? I don't like what is going on with the fisheries, nor how it is happening, but I am guessing that their perspective on things is a bit different to ours. Same thinking for things like natural resources and air pollution etc. I am sure that the Chinese would argue that most of the '1st world' countries built their wealth on the back of mass exploitation of those resources, and now they are just taking their turn. Hard to argue with really, even though the earth can't really support what is happening any longer.
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Originally posted by Capt Asparagus Capt Asparagus wrote:

China would replace and likely quadruple any of NZs aid in an instant, and would pretty much own the whole place outright. Only way to prevent this would be for nz to match the size of the personal payments made to the officials there, as well as any new hospitals, roads etc etc etc that China have also given them.
The fix is in, china will keep on buying these tiny states, gunna keep happening as long as these states are so prone to corruption. Sorry, is it called Koha?

That's about the hight of it all unfortunately ..... for the rest of us
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its happening all over the pacific. When i was working in Vanuatu, the government sold out fishing rights to the chinese in return for hospitals, roads and other infrastructure. Every evening you would see the Chinese longliners leaving port vila harbour under the cover of darknness. A while back one sunk in a cyclone and the salvagers found the hold full of shark fin, turtles and an assortment of other fish, when they were reportedly only Fishing for "sustainable" tuna. Money talks in these poor nations and unfortunatly the governments listen...
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