FC430 good ? - bad ?

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For what it is worth, I have a FC535 and have fished all over the North Island in all sorts of conditions. More recently it has been all over Durville and Tasman Big, big swells and following swells - no worries. The boat is far more capable than I am confident!
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Hey team, resurrecting an old thread rather than posting a new one. For FC390 and FC430 owners how much water do they require to float when unloaded with the motor up? Reason for asking is where I launch on the Manukau it can be very shallow for a long way depending on the tide. Mate's Stabicraft 1410 floats in 3 inches of water which is all you get sometimes unless you want to put all four wheels of your tow vehicle in the drink. How do the small FC's go beach launching on flat gradient?
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As per earlier comments in this thread, I have the 465 which is probably a bit heavier than the 430 - it's the same hull but with a different longer transom and a windscreen that would add some weight.

I regularly beach launch on a gently sloping shore on the east coast of Auckland. But
with a 40hp Merc you definitely can't float in 3 inches of water with gear on board - i'm not keen to launch with nothing in the boat and have to walk backwards and forwards to the floating boat with the tote, chilly bin, etc etc. 

Needs to be shin deep in my experience, and you have to be very wary of launching into skinny water on the outgoing. There's no way i can turn the boat around solo and drag it out to deeper water once it beaches in the shallows on an outgoing tide. I only made that mistake once!

But I can't recommend the boat highly enough as an overall craft for beach launching, with the low rider trailer etc.
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Thanks mate really like the deck space etc of the FC's but the floatation of the pontoon boats mean they can launch at any tide (with the fuel and chilly bin) reason for using this ramp is it's 5 mins from home and never busy. Keen to hear if anyone has experience with the 390s though
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there is also the Kingfisher dinghies to consider which have a lot of the FC features, but run slightly flatter hull and would in turn float slightly shallower
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Originally posted by Tinfisher Tinfisher wrote:

Thanks mate really like the deck space etc of the FC's but the floatation of the pontoon boats mean they can launch at any tide (with the fuel and chilly bin) reason for using this ramp is it's 5 mins from home and never busy. Keen to hear if anyone has experience with the 390s though

The number one rule is to get what suits you!

You could try a PM to FarQuirk, who was a long time 390 owner and did a lot of beach launching in east Auckland (as well as ramps).
Russell (Redfinger on the forum) is a salesman at Fish City Albany and was fantastic to deal with when I bought mine - including a sea trial off a beach launch etc. He's a long-time FC430 CC owner, and another of the staff has the tiller. So they will give you a straight answer about depth for the lighter/smaller models than the 465.
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I am also considering a used FC430 - my previous experience is with a 90s Buccaneer 510/130HP and now a sea Kayak... The FC430 looks a simple quick setup for non-fuss fishing! Majority of used options appear to be with the tiller Mercury 30hp, no electric trim and no springs on trailers. Anything particular to look out for on these if I get a 5yr+ old one at this point? 

Presumably OK to get extras welded on at this age e.g. ladder/step at back if missing?

Earlier in the thread there was discussion around 3mm cracks and possible redesign on later models, can anyone confirm their experience of this and what to look out for - what year was the design improved, where are the weak points etc?

Any other points what to look for/avoid - bimini, trailer issues, 30hp issues, corrosion hot spots etc?

Any suggestions if 3-4 people including 2 kids, what suitable seats to add (small floor/portable seats for example?)

Hoping launching east Auckland and able to reach waiheke etc a handful of times a year in good conditions. Expectations this would handle 70% of the conditions the Buccaneer did, is this a good approximation or unrealistic? Think metservice boat forecast range 7-10...

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Hi there,
As with any boat, this will be a compromise. I have an FC465 runabout, which is based on the same footprint as the 430, but has a different stern shape and rear boarding platforms, and has the solid ali windscreen - and two seats up front.
That serves to make the boat feel slightly longer - hence the 35cm extra in the LOA. Mine has the 40hp Merc four stroke which came with the package from new. The rating was 40-60hp and I might go for a 60hp down the track, but it's fine at 40hp for what I need.

My experience after 7 years has been an excellent one. I regularly fish similar areas as you describe in moderate winds, and have fished in the open ocean in the Far North with confidence. The boat seems to punch above its weight in terms of dryness and stability. 
It's never going to match a larger, deeper v boat, or glass boat for ride, but that's the compromise with being able to easily beach launch and store.
I like the security of the bungs into the livebait tank, which means if you ship water over the stern you can drain it into the tank, or forget the bung (only once!) but have the other two in, you don't have a problem.

There is heaps of fishing room - more so than most much larger boats. I have taken my wife and two young boys out many times, but I can see how it will become a bit cramped when they are strapping teenagers. There is nowhere for young kids to lie down and sleep - like you'd find in larger cuddy style boats - but that's a different ballgame in terms of size and cost. And in reality,  my kids are so into fishing they don't get bored.

I suspect you might find the 430 a bit sluggish with three or four on board and a 30hp outboard.

My handy dad built a folding wooden seat to my design which clips over the rear shelves for a 3rd seat. I've also added some extra rod holders near the front of the boat - one Railblazer and two stick on. I think the horizontal ones that came with the boat are okay for rod storage when going from A to B, but useless when moving spot and you don't want the rods in the side holders getting splashed.
I also added a flat wooden platform to hold my tote tank, rather than have it sitting at a wonky angle with the way the stern is designed to drain into the self-filling livebait tank.

Only one issue on the boat - with the weld of the small access 'window' through the windscreen to the anchor well. That just crumbled and came off in my hands. Unfortunately out of warranty at the time.
I think the weld stuff you are referring to re the hulls was a long time ago.

I also think the Voyager trailer design is wrong at the wiring end, as tight backing turns crush the cable to the lights - due to the way the trailer chain and the electrical cable emerge from the trailer together. I came up with a way of preventing that happening again, but it's poor to be in that position in the first place.

Overall, I'd highly recommend the small FCs. I've been out a few times in Redfinger's FC430CC, and that's an excellent format too. 
I think Geoff 'Far Quirk' on this forum - a moderator - has the 430 tiller. Maybe drop him a PM.

Good luck.
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