Is There Any Hope For Aitutaki?

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I feel positive for Aitutaki, after 10 trips there I cant say it is worse nor better but I do see the place getting more popular with fly fisherpeople and can only hope that demand for rich fishing grounds oustrips current trends with the netting, even if it is just reduced to the requirements of the current rules with netting and if these are adhered to it could be a healthy partnership betweem tourists and locals alike.

It is a hard place to catch your first bone but the challenge is well rewarding and as fishbyfly says you learn you go back and you get better.

I certainly am in for the long haul definetly voting with my feet 36 days to go:)
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Hope you have a good trip Will.

If those blasted netters start hauling their bloody nets right in front of you or along any of those best beaches and flats (like they have done when several friends have been there) then please take some pics. I'd be keen to send photos like that to the Rarotonga Ministry of Tourism and Ministry of Fisheries and see what sort of reaction (or action?) results.
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Maybe that's what it needs - a kick in the balls to make them see the result of their netting, to effect change, before it's too late for the fishery...?
Then locals like Itu can explain the economics to the netters and it might just hit home.
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Yeah, it's a difficult one. Especially when netting is seen as a 'traditional' way of putting food on the table. The biggest clash occurs because both netters and fly fishers want to use the sandy areas with no coral. The only way around the problem I see is in the development of a new source of eating fish for the island, probably from deepwater- nothing else is left.


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I don't know Aitutaki at all but thinking about the 4 or 5 meals a week of fish that the Aitutakians eat ,has the population jumped on the island so that more fish is being netted ?
 Could the families making money out of fly fishing/tourism perhaps help the families netting to get a small boat ( Rarotongan style )and encouarge them to get out and catch wahoo/ yellowfin etc OUTSIDE of the reef. A couple of decent yellowfin mahi mahi or wahoo, which would be a reasonable days catch ,would go a lot further than dozens of bonefish .
 
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Yeah Nah. In the main tourist season every wahoo and yellowfin currently caught is quickly purchased by the restaurants and resorts on the island. There is often a shortage and local boats have been known to make 24 hour return trips to Manuae in order to hopefully load up on yellowfin and wahoo.

This puts a high price on yellowfin and wahoo and makes the lagoon fish the staple of the townsfolk. Apart from a few goats, pigs and chickens, fish is the main protein available on the island. So there is a good demand at the local market for local fish. 

What is needed I think is a source of fish to ease the pressure off the local fish supply during peak tourist times. This would have to be deepwater dropline caught fish and there would need to be a chiller room facility from which to store and sell the fish from. I am unsure if chiller facilities currently exist on the island. Setting up chiller facilities would of course require significant investment funds from somewhere.

As you can see, with the current tourism pressure on the pelagic fishery and the need for the locals to have a regular supply of affordable fish, there are no easy answers.
 
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Thought that was too easy a solution . Thanks Craig for taking the time to explain . I think in Raro one of the perse seiner deals involved a certain amount of Albacore to be offloaded in Raro for local consumption ? Maybe a similar deal could be done for Aitutaki .
Has the amount of netting increased ? Is it sustainable from a fish population point of view ? Has the population increased possibly to cope with tourism ?
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The population on Aitutaki- like most of the Cook Islands- has actually been decreasing. The cooks have direct entry to NZ (and therefore Australia) so constantly lose people.

And overall, netting has probably decreased. Nobody knows really. No accurate records are kept. 

The fishing on Aitutaki has improved from what it was, but the netting that remains is shallow water drag netting and it is occurring on some of the best bonefish beaches and flats on the island. This puts it into direct conflict with fly fishers. This drag netting severely impacts on the results visiting fly fishers can expect from their fishing. It doing so it destroys any chance of the island reaching its full potential as a great fly fishing destination.

I have seen and have heard of netting activity going on right under the noses of visiting fly fishers. Even on the sand bank directly in front of the resort. I know of fly fishers that refuse to return to Aitutaki because of this and I know I won't be either. I'm not going to stand on a sand flat and wonder whether someone has dragged a giant net across it the day before. I'm not going to spend $3000 to get to Aitutaki for a week on the off-chance that the netters have left a few fish for me.

The thing is that Aitutaki could easily triple the number of fly fishers fishing the island with no real impact on the fishery at all. Imagine the economic benefits of that. At the moment this potential is being totally killed by a bunch of cowboys with a big tin boat and a very large net that want to flog fish off at the local market.






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my 11th trip to aitutaki and all is looking good. The more bonefisher people that go the more the the island can see how important it is to stop the netting. landed 11 bones and dropped 5. most in the 9 to 10 pound range. 8 off the kayak and 3 of the flats on foot. even got a couple on samade this time.
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Clap Sounds good Will. That's an excellent average weight. January would be an interesting time of year to go.
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Go Will!
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smashing it m8. absolutely smashing it.
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Are the bonefish less line/fly shy because of FishMans boycott ?
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Ha ha LegacySmile It's an easy boycott when its so hard at the moment to get the planets to align for an overseas fishing trip. But yeah... I bet the bonefish are still recovering after my last trip there when they encountered this bumbling white man and his water slapping cast LOL

Looks like January could be the time to go fishing. Maybe less netting pressure because its not peak tourist season??
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we go to Rarotonga  most Januarys and its the beginning of the cyclone season and the water is realy warm , a lot of the  locals going home for Christmas so end of January can be cheap , think i saw a flight one way to Raro for $150 yesterday .Some beaautiful hot still days between monsoon like rain .
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