letsgetem wrote: Snapper stocks are even worse in the Bay of Plenty. I understand MPI estimated only 6% snapper stock (of original stock), compared to about 24% Hauraki Gulf. Basically it is hard to catch any snapper in BOP. So, a recreational-only area is needed more in BOP. I think an area out to the 12nm limit would be the minimum for a worthwhile recreational-only area. National must accept that other areas are just as (or more) deserving - so I hope this is negotiated.

Guys this is not a HG vs BoP argument.

I agree that the need for rec only areas in BOP and no doubt other parts, should not dictate any reduction in the already proposed areas (HG and Marlborough). I certainly don't want an argument over where to do it - but expect the United Furure negotiation to include ongoing effect in other areas.

Forget anything else. The time for you to have a say politically has gone and anglers at large did not support us. If it is green policy or NZ First policy then let them negotiate their own agreement with National.  As was made well clear on this forum and others before the election NZ First would not go into government and therefore be powerless and so it is but I know plenty of anglers who voted for them!
The Policy we, United Future went to the electorate with was for recreational Fishing reserves specifically for the hauraki Gulf and Marlborough sounds and other areas such as BOP and Akaroa... but National usurped us and announced what they have. They were voted in and we got 4000 votes.... so we are not in any position to demand anything... but because of our coatlition with National we can have some say in the proposed Nats policy... hence my involvement. We don't have any other influence.
I want to know where the boundaries should be and any other issues that should be taken into account such as mullet fishing etc.... I'm not interested in ex NZ First policy of 12 mile limits etc. that's all been left behind with the election. If you are still wanting that idea then talk to Richard Prosser or Winston Peters...
I want to make sure I have taken into account all the issues around the proposed National Party Recreational fishing reserves for the Hauraki Gulf and Marlborough Sounds. I'm afraid Net sizes and all the things bad with com fishing don't come into it.

Dont worry I will be trying to open other doors..Im just as concerned at BOP and netting and wastage...  and so on... We have been given a partially open door.. lets get the wedge in firmly and then start giving it a bash or two! The test will be how well they listen to us on this issue.....