Drought time carping?

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    Posted: 27 Feb 2013 at 6:21am
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How does it go? I figure less water means more competition, so hungyer fish and thus better fishing, true? Or too simplistic? Do higher temps/lower oxygen make them lazy?
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This time of year is very hard...low oxygen levels mean very lethargic fish....maybe late evening or very early morning best bets...but if you catch at this time of year you are doing well!!!! Roll n Autumn!!
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The river is your best bet at this time of year, the lakes are dead at the moment, low water, low oxygen levels and algea bloom.
If you get the tide right and the right time of day, then you have a chance of catching a few on the river.
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Well, ive been bowfishing for mullet at the bottom of the karapiro dam,absolutely thousands of em, but the number of big carp is well up there as well if you want a good spot to try.  the "quarry" a 100 metres down on the true left,well in the last 3 days ive seen several schools of 20-50 at times.They sure dont seem lethargic at all,feeding in the rapids and edges.
 
Pretty sure i saw a huge grass carp off one of the ledges there, if it wasnt then it was something the size of a decent kingie but  it looked greenish and im pretty sure ive seen smaller grass carp as well know that im looking more. I believe theres a breeding population in the river as another bowfisher  got a 16kg and a 19kg grass carp recently,it was in the Cambridge News paper.
 
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pss -  i should state that i dont target grass carp at all(unless in a certain private pond) as they eat water weed in staggering amounts, and god knows the oxygen weeds out of control.
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Great info Brian.
That sounds as if It would be worth a trip down there next summer to have a fish, it's an area that I haven't been to yet and may be worth spending a weekend there. Just need to get a bit more organised with a few camping essentials.
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Brian you see many in Karapiro Lake itself???
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Do i see many of what specifically ?  It holds carp,rudd,catfish,trout and perch.and a kazillion eels.
I dont bowfish in karapiro itself, i fish there
 
 
but... if anyone has access to a dinghy or a canoe or yak then try this area.
Its Heavy with oxygen weed,water hyacinth in places, and other floating water plants so will choke an outboard.There are a few cleared spots,and areas where the water is crystal clear as well. Foot access is a right *******,and some very shallow spots in the yellow spotted area which look wadable are not,i sunk up to my armpits and if my canoe hadnt been in reach i wouldnt have made it back so dont try.
It has some very big inhabitants though,  ive seen carp well over 10kg and trout around 5kg.
 
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Red spots - is the main area i would consider for fishing,its sluggish waters and tons of area to hide in.
 
Yellow spots - Generally crystal clear to a depth of 1 1/2 metres and a lot of very large lilly pads here,its where i found a 60cm dead grass carp.
 
Red circle down backwater  - waterskiing clubs floating palace.Has bench seats and a roof. Many a time ive canoed to it and spent the night there  with the kids eeling.But the real kicker is the really big grass carp that I spotted whilst sitting on the roof ,about 15 ft off the water.If i HAD to put a size to it,i would say around 20kg Easily.
 
Red circled area on Karapiro lake edge - the red line leading to the circled area is the access road.The area itself has rudd and my eldest kid swears hes seen carp there, but ive not seen them myself.
 
 
 
 
The stretch along Horahora road has lots of little backwaters that hold rudd perch etc,such as the area beside Little waipa camping ground,and the stump riddled areas opposite the Maungatautari rd bridge of state highway 1,plus a few others. Mostly easy access as well.
 
Rudd and perch can be caught almost at will anywhere in the lake or back waters,for some reason catfish are only in certain areas and not in large numbers,unsure as to why.
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Oh yes,   if you follow the yellow spotted area up,that area all floods in winter.Follow it up on google maps and you come to 2 reasonable sized ponds.One of which drains into that end of the backwater arm. Always wondered what if anything ,is in those ponds..  might have to roll up n ask one day soon.
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Thank you Brian for the great info... do you think i would get in there with my boat? its 4.5m Sea Nymph.
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One place i have been in the boat that looked good was here further up the lake

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Great info Brian
 
The red circle on the lake itself is that some kind of reserve?  I have fished on the corner at the dam bouy thing where the carpark is but never knew there was more bank further round to the left...or do you need to ask permmission from the land owner to get in there????
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Thanks for the great info Brian.Clap
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do you think i would get in there with my boat? its 4.5m Sea Nymph. - You would get in there easily but watch out for rocks at the side when entering the place.You would just have to watch the weed doesnt clog the outboard water cooling intake is all. Where the red spot area ends is a sort of  boom made of plastic barrels,once past there the weed is far less dense near the surface.
 
Be aware that the waterski club uses this area on the weekends.
 
The red circle on the lake itself is that some kind of reserve? I have fished on the corner at the dam bouy thing where the carpark is but never knew there was more bank further round to the left...or do you need to ask permmission from the land owner to get in there????   -   its a reserve, if you zoom in on google maps you can see its a huge unbuilt area. Never ever seen anyone else there though.
 
The area of the map below i have circled in red is reserve,and able to be accessed on foot.Some areas are prone to flooding after heavy sustained rain though.
 
Dont try to launch anything bigger than a small tinny off the closest boatramp,it will eat your boat.Best to use some of the upstream ones,or over at the rowing clubs etc.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Originally posted by sbeehre sbeehre wrote:

One place i have been in the boat that looked good was here further up the lake

 
Also, look at the bottom of your pic, on the opposite side of the river.. 2 places that look promising..and theres a few more a couples of km south. 
 
 Hard to explore on the main karapiro stretches in a canoe though, 10,000 boats going past 10 foot away at full speed doesnt make for much fun. I have a tinny and a 7hp,but feel it would scare any fish away, i like the canoe as its stealthy.
 
If you go use google and go to where the rowing club wharves are, head south along Maungatautari road a few hundy metres, and you come across a decent area of seemingly landlocked water,but its connected to Karapiro via a tunnel under the road. Surely there must be all sorts of fish in there .  type in oar and paddle on google maps if you dont know where i mean, the waterway is just to the left of it.
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