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    Posted: 03 Mar 2010 at 6:37pm
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can any one tell me what this is and what gear i need?


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if your not sure how to tie those knots ive done a few animations in my time for people willing to learn the basics....

knot also know as the snood or simple snell very easy to tie...



the Bimini is a little harder to learn but with practice is very rewarding...
 
                                          

ive used a 3 turn joiner to attach the trace to the double of the Bimini for over 12years now an its never let me down...




rigging a Pilchard with very little fuss and get your rig back into the water as quick as, this method is great for when pickers are around and your after something big...

                                         





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straylining would have to be my favourite style of fishing..
 
I usually cut corners though, keeps it simple and fast, when its hot you wanna get your bait straight back out there, so I just do a uni knot directly from the mainline to the main hook with a running keeper. I dont bother with a trace and usually use 15 lb mono or slightly bigger. 
 
I know people will say you should use a fluorcarbon trace but I dont reckon its worth the hassle. I use an overhead reel, shimano calcutta, penn mag, or daiwa sealine slh 20 sh.
 
 I like the idea of a single peice of line between my thumb and the fish...
 
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Plow, feel free to join in.... the intro to the forum is going to be changed we welcome all input, if it's worthy it will be approved. Being a mod doesn't make you a super fisherman or anything but by some strange act of god we all are Clown.

When it comes to straylining there really is a god and he will be real embarrassed I said so but Lethal is one of the best. Listen carefully Grasshopper!
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im with you Plow its my preferred method ,i use a shimano torium30 spooled with 15k braid,i use a 50lb mono trace with a large 8bar magic hook and 5 or 6 keeper hook ,i simply run the mon through the eye of large hook wrap around 5/6 times then pull stright back through the eye and pull tight then slide the keeper hook down with a small ball sinker just enough to get bait down i usually drop in 15-25mtrs ,the trace is tie to braid via a swivel ,simple but effective rig that does the job ,pilchard then feed on large hook through upper gut ,then loop line round lower tail area insert keeper hook so pulls against the wrap round line half hitch holds ball sinker against tail and thats it ,i do rip the head off ,expose the juice and flesh ,strayline fishing is the most relaxed fish method i know and can be very successfull if given the patience to sit there while burley flows early in the morning 
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Thanks for all of that, it will be very helpful.
 
So when is the best time to use this rig?
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It works very well fishing into a burley trail. Works well drifting, fishing into structure, fishing from the rocks ... very versatile and enjoyable way of fishing. Stay in contact with the bait at all times for best results. In deep water, strong currents or fast drifts it can be challenging getting your baits to the bottom so more weight is needed.
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Thanks for everything you did for us Eric. may you rest in peace, You were one of the real legends of NZ recreational fishing
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what rod and reel should i use i have a Jarvis walker mirage series II 6'6''boat rod with a Jarvis walker mirage EA 700 reel with 250 yards of 15LB mono would that do the trick cost me bout $60 on special at hamills waiheke is that alright

if you don't know the rod and reel just Google it and theirs a few on TM

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Hi fishin mad,
Jarvis Walker is name brand only product meaning, mainly made in china, developed to sell at a price that will fill a gap in the market....
nothing wrong with that, there is such a thing called pricing to suit a particular gap...

ive caught heaps of descent fish on JW products...
but they need a little more love and care if your looking for a long term investment....

at least your fishing and that is the main thing, next is to get you something to test your ability on... hooking the fish requires a lot more than just holding a rod/reel in your hand...

lining the boat up stream or up wind of the marks you found on your sounder, regardless of drifting or anchoring, putting the boat in the right place is so many folks down fall, it all sounds easy until you come up tight on the anchor and you dont get a bite, or your drift is nowhere were the fish where...

burley, bring the fish to you, you need the right structure out behind the boat the current traveling onto the reef the wind holding your boat in the place, all these things need to be thought out before hand...

some you will only acquire with time on the water, which is why its called fishing, at first you will get Zilched and with time you will learn to take note of what you did when it all come together...

what im getting at its not the gear its the clown on the other end thats holding it that makes the dissension....

here is what its like when you get it all sorted....




      
    
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Maybe you can strayline at any depth but I think generally in depths less than 30m. Particularly useful in shallows with current as it gets your bait away from the boat where the shy (larger) snapper will hang back. It's the only way I'll fish in the Tauranga harbour where I fish in 4 to 6m of water. Key is having a ball (or similar type) sinker on your main line (so line runs freely through it)and this is either tied directly to a hook or to a swivel which then has anything from half a metre to 10m trace and then the hook. I use about 1.5m trace. Use as light a sinker as possible to get to the bottom. I often have to change a couple of times as the tidal current picks up. Key is that fish should be able to take bait with little resistance - many set overhead reels in free spool with just the clicker for resistance. Straylininig spinning type reel also very effective.

 
Can be an akward and uncomfortable way to fish if wind is against the tide. It's an enjoyable way to fish when you have a good berly trail going out the back of your boat (I often put a berley bag tied onto my anchor chain) and your lines are heading out the back of the boat. Much more difficult and uncomfortable if the current is taking your line under the boat.
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