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    Posted: 12 Apr 2004 at 5:48pm
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is it just my thoughts or are drivers towing both boats and caravans (include campervans) getting worst at pulling over and letting others pass?
I asked a guy towing a caravan why he didnt pull over and let others pass, his answer was that he was driveing safely and others should learn to slow down. I had followed this guy down the coast at no faster than 50kms.
May be Im just impatient
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Not impatient Barrie..........it's 100k limit most of the way down the coast but in most places it would be hard to reach that speed, that caravan driver should learn some common sense and common courtesy by letting others pass. Indeed research and documentation show it's people such as him that cause road rage as well as causing people to take unnecessary risks to pass

Perhaps the next person he shows discourtesy to may not accept his answer as diplomaticaly as you did.

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I was thinking the same thing the other day Barrie after having been caught behind a vehicle towing a trailer at slow speed and the other driver unprepared to pull over. There was a huge line up of traffic in his wake. Totally ignorant afaic!

I'm always mindful of who and what is going on behind me when towing. If you are travelling at 80k then that is where all the action is anyway. Will always pull over where possible and if necessary stop. Peeves you off when others can not administer the same courtesy.

As AC said one of these days the driver you mentioned is going to say that to the wrong person and is going to wonder why he is flat on his ass on the ground.

I'd say you were more than patient Barrie.

 

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on the other hand....quite often I find I am toddling along at 100kph and the traffic is building up behind me, I refuse to pull over and let them go. If however I was travelling at 80 or 50 I would pull over.

I will not allow the traffic behind to dictate my speed and if people want to stare at my spare wheel cover more fool them.

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Jo - I know it is frustrating when you are tailgated really pisses me off.

However would you feel any better knowing that doing what you are doing could create a dangerous passing manouver that could result in serious accident or death?

If the traffic is building up behind YOU (regardless of the actual speed you are doing) then you are not maintaining the flow of trafffic. Y ou should still pull over.

Let the idiots get caught a few kms up the road on a speed camera.

 

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Correct Redfinger. They are not trying to dictate your speed Jo, you are trying to dictate theirs and its an arrogant and dangerous attitude.
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one of my pet hates to Barrie, the crazy thing is you only have to slow down most of the time.and you lose bugger all time yourself.
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But then its still quite good just sitting on a good speed as long as every one is moving and the brakes are used as little as possible, its the idiots that speed up and slow down are the ones at fault and terrible over taking is a result of people going to pass then the car they are going around decides to speed up again running the passer out of room. These pricks need their asses booted!!
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I pull over regardless of speed whenever I notice others behind me when towing. A few times Ive found them to be either a neibour or staying where Im staying. In saying that ,I know the coast road real well now.
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some people pull over some people don't. i do if its safe and convenient, but if i am going a decent speed i wont go out of my way to pull over. regardless, anyone who tailgates is causing a dangerous situation and gets a 1 oz sinker in the windshield for his troubles.
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Hey Barrie, right on mate!

As you know I occasionally tow our boat to Coromandel and there's plenty of places to let others pass even without difficulty and we do so. It's good to get the occasional toot on the horn of thanks (less and less these days) and we feel good for not holding others up. Especially on the hills by Te Kouma!

Other folk have the right to drive without to many hold ups.

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i think the rule of thumb is that if you have more than 6 cars behind you its polite to pull over where practible or less if you've had smoked fish for nibbles on the coast
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are you the sole judge of "decent speed" ?
The guy I questioned indicated that and if he wasnt use to the roads, maybe he was correct. But for those that travel often on these roads, he was traveling unfairly slowly.
As for sinkers, I promise you that if that happened to me, I would without doupt, seek revenge and would get it one way or another. I would take your Rego number as well as follow you home and belive me,I would get my own back. Please, I suggest that you never try that with me.
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in say a week day, 6 cars may take 2 hours to form but its still hard to get past. I just belive that if others are faster than me, I dont want them behind me.
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Interesting thread. I am trying to become a Kiwi driver, though it is as difficult to unlearn good driving practices and skills as it is to unlearn bad ones, but are Redfinger and  Wayne L really saying that if you are driving to/at the speed limit you are in the wrong not to stop and let those who want to exceed the speed limit go past you?

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anytime you want to tailgate me bazza i have a few sinkers waiting for you. tailgating is dangerous and if you want to keep yourself safe mate, don't do it.

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Personally I would rather let them pass than have the fools around me, regardless of what speed they are doing. Life is just to short to get wound up by fools on the roads.

Its much safer to be behind them, than running with a pack of fools

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Sinkers aren't a great idea CJ. All you need to do is move your ass over.
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WOW CJ.......... your a worry mate........ i had some nuts one night think it was a good idea to throw a beer can at my 4X4 because they thought my headlights were on high and this is after i put then up then back down again twice to show they where not........ can show you the tree they ended up against 20meters off the road where i pushed them to.........

dont throw anything at a 4X4 more so if it a Toyota Landcruiser.......

as for going at the speed limit when towing which is 80k you should pull over and let others go by...... its no skin off your nose to do so...... it makes me feel good that ive let them by as i know what its like when im being held up by some stupid dick that thinks eveyone should go at his speed........

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all good comments - i do reckon that particularly slow drivers are dangerous in that they create a situation where people may do something reckless to get past

one thing that totally cheeses me off - is where slow drivers speed up signifactantly on passing lanes - a friend got a ticket recently at the end of a passing lane for doing 130k trying to get past someone who had early been travelling at 85k and then sped up at the passing lane

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I'm with you guys who would rather let folk past. I want to enjoy my trips so dont see the benefit of making more hassles for myself than absolutely necessary. I have no issues pulling over to allow faster traffic to continue on. Only time i get testy is when i do pull over and the vehicles behind refuse to pass or sit right on your right rear indecisive as to whether to go or not.

Met the campervan from hell today on the way back from Kaiaua. We were following at about 60k along the Miranda cost road, no big issue we wern't in a hurry to get home. All of a sudden the driver in the van hits the picks and comes to a stop. Slow down, look ahead (its a respectable clear straight) indicate and proceed to pass. Just as we get into the right lane the camper takes off and proceeds to sit and keep pace level with the boat as we are accelerating. The dumbass was trying to pass us on the inside and we were running out of road. Luckily the old ute still has a bit of tit and we were able to pass. Thankfully nothing came the other way or we would have been up crappers creek and would have needed to do some major braking. One of the stupidest manoevours ive seen in a long while.

 

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