Senator RH680 vs stabicraft 659super cab

Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote sea walker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: Senator RH680 vs stabicraft 659super cab
    Posted: 05 Oct 2007 at 3:23am
sea walker View Drop Down
Bronze
Bronze
Avatar

Joined: 05 Oct 2007
Status: Offline
Points: 7
 Hi all
   I would like to ask you if you could tall me  any good or bad thoughts regarding this two boats .
  If you buying which one will you choose  and why ?
   I would like to know  much as is possible  from  riding, stability, which one need les power, which one is better build ,better resale too etc.etc
  
     i will use mainly for offshore fishing  around 90klm one way to reef  and trolling for bill fish
  
     sea walker
   
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote tugboat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Oct 2007 at 8:34pm
tugboat View Drop Down
Titanium
Titanium
Avatar

Joined: 28 Sep 2003
Location: WEST AUCKS
Status: Offline
Points: 3614
I would go the senator, have a look closely at the front hull design, senator pontoons sit alot higher at the bow giving it alot better ride in short steep chop and rough water using the vee to break the wave rather than the pontoon, stabis sit alot lower and tend to pound alot more in the bow, just my opinion, check em out youll see what i mean..
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote sea walker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 Oct 2007 at 2:31am
sea walker View Drop Down
Bronze
Bronze
Avatar

Joined: 05 Oct 2007
Status: Offline
Points: 7

what I notes stabi got 3 years warranty  and senator 2 years

  stabi got 20 degrees
 dead rise and senator 680 17 degrees but 620 got 18 degrees
  
 got there bit confused
 
any how  i would like to hear from any owner of this boat  do they had any issues with cracking or oxidation etc
 or some one who had chance to be on  both of this boats
  
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote righthook Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Oct 2007 at 12:58am
righthook View Drop Down
Silver
Silver
Avatar

Joined: 26 Feb 2007
Location: Jersey
Status: Offline
Points: 164
I've only had small pontoon boats, I've owned the 509W stabi and had a kiwicraft b4 that,  never been in a senator but they look more like a kiwicraft which was a sweet hull and rode really well, quite a deep v seemed more like a senator....correct me if im wrong?, stabi was ok at rest but road like a brick in any chop, been told a lot of the stabis are like that, talking to other owners. all I can say is try them in crap weather,  my personal choice would be a kiwi or senator or even the osprey look quite nice.
 
on other questions pontoons love big horsepower to work well,  from what I know and have been told.  I thought the kiwicraft had far better quality workmanship than the stabi, cant comment on the senator as never really looked round one.
 
thats my 10cents anywaySmile
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote phinalea Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Oct 2007 at 1:22pm
phinalea View Drop Down
Bronze
Bronze


Joined: 15 May 2003
Status: Offline
Points: 34
pontoon boats go osprey every time check out their web site www.osprey.co.nz i have one and wouldnt really consider any thing else
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote sea walker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Oct 2007 at 1:02am
sea walker View Drop Down
Bronze
Bronze
Avatar

Joined: 05 Oct 2007
Status: Offline
Points: 7
Originally posted by phinalea phinalea wrote:

pontoon boats go osprey every time check out their web site www.osprey.co.nz i have one and wouldnt really consider any thing else
 
    Phinale  i believe the osrey good boats
 i just don't like  thet is to much gap between me and fish
 looks like  the transom is to long on this boat
 
    thanks any way  for your  replay
  
  sea walker
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote Naki Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Oct 2007 at 7:54am
Naki View Drop Down
Platinum
Platinum
Avatar

Joined: 19 Aug 2002
Location: Lebanon
Status: Offline
Points: 2133
sea walker.
I have a Senator 620.
 
What tugboats says is correct.  Senators have a bigger & higher bow and therefore seem to handle the rough a little better.
 
Pontoon boats do require more horsepower than a standard deep "V" due to the fact that they tend to push the water rather than slice it.
 
Senators have more cockpit space than Stabis also.
 
Take both boats out in rough conditions and then compare.
 
President of the "Pontoon Owners Club".
I started off with nothing and now I still have most of it left!!!
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote Bushpig Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Oct 2007 at 8:18am
Bushpig View Drop Down
Titanium
Titanium
Avatar

Joined: 17 Jul 2002
Location: Uzbekistan
Status: Offline
Points: 12651
Originally posted by Naki Naki wrote:

sea walker.
I have a Senator 620.
 
What tugboats says is correct.  Senators have a bigger & higher bow and therefore seem to handle the rough a little better.
 


*cough*bull*****cough*


I would rather laugh with the Sinners, than cry with the Saints
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote sea walker Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Oct 2007 at 2:57pm
sea walker View Drop Down
Bronze
Bronze
Avatar

Joined: 05 Oct 2007
Status: Offline
Points: 7
Originally posted by Bushpig Bushpig wrote:

Originally posted by Naki Naki wrote:

sea walker.
I have a Senator 620.
 
What tugboats says is correct.  Senators have a bigger & higher bow and therefore seem to handle the rough a little better.
 


*cough*bull*****cough*


 
   LOLLOLLOL bushpig  u mast have stabi
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote Bushpig Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 Oct 2007 at 3:09pm
Bushpig View Drop Down
Titanium
Titanium
Avatar

Joined: 17 Jul 2002
Location: Uzbekistan
Status: Offline
Points: 12651
Originally posted by sea walker sea walker wrote:

   LOLLOLLOL bushpig  u mast have stabi


Nope I have a Surtees. But I did own a Stabi.

Naki is a one eyed nutter from Taranaki, dont listen to him. His toes a webbed
I would rather laugh with the Sinners, than cry with the Saints
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote Naki Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Oct 2007 at 7:23am
Naki View Drop Down
Platinum
Platinum
Avatar

Joined: 19 Aug 2002
Location: Lebanon
Status: Offline
Points: 2133
[QUOTE=Dirty Oar]what ever you do stay well clear from a stabi , whilst they have a rep for being an awesome ride i went in one recently and just about broke my balls and the noise was horendous , it was a pretty mellow sea too , dont know why people love em so much ,
 
 
too true Clap
 
Nuff said.
President of the "Pontoon Owners Club".
I started off with nothing and now I still have most of it left!!!
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote livin4fish Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Oct 2007 at 7:44pm
livin4fish View Drop Down
Silver
Silver
Avatar

Joined: 21 Apr 2005
Location: Planet Claire
Status: Offline
Points: 295
Do you really need a pontoon boat? There's plenty of none pontoon tinnies and glass hardtops doing what you want it to. There's a big range of 6.5 metre boats - trail a few and you might be surprised.
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote mmmm... Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Jan 2013 at 2:28pm
mmmm... View Drop Down
Silver
Silver


Joined: 17 Oct 2010
Status: Offline
Points: 400
if you are trolling in big seas then a pontoon boat is the way to go. the boat sits nice and level. and the arse doesnt drag in the water so you use alot less fuel. i have a stabi 509 which i have done some game fishing out of. it trolls awesome, done a whole day trolling and only used 65 70 litres with a 75 etec.
the ride is very hard tho. i am looking to move up to a 5.8 or 6m pontoon boat but the stabis are too exspensive for me and i would like to see if the senators ride softer, then i will get a senator.
the re sale on stabis is alot better tho. the is a 620ht senator with a 150 4 stroke yammie all 2007
250hrs for $55k. if it was a stabi 2050 or 589 it would be $65 to $75K. so if your boat is a stepping
stone then maybe a stabi for resale or if your keeping if for 10yrs then maybe a sentor
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (1) Likes(1)   Quote Butcherman1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Feb 2023 at 8:27am
Butcherman1 View Drop Down
Bronze
Bronze


Joined: 11 Feb 2023
Status: Offline
Points: 6
I bought new stabi 1850 in 2020 sold 2 months ago du to back breaking and loud noise from hull..I have bought the new rh580 senator and my life has changed..it is so smooth in chop no noise I am blown away by how smooth and quiet it is...my mistake was not taking stabi out for sea trail and went ahead with purchase based on public perseption..I won't go back to stabi even based on resale ..can go to work with no more sore legs or sore back and that groggy head headache from the bashing..owning both stabi and senator there is a huge comparison along a few sectors in savings and heartaches.
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote Pcj Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Feb 2023 at 2:13pm
Pcj View Drop Down
Titanium
Titanium
Avatar

Joined: 27 Nov 2019
Location: papakura
Status: Offline
Points: 4107
Haha is that not what we said from day one.fishing platform only
"Times up"
Back to Top
Post Options Post Options   Likes (0) Likes(0)   Quote Coutta Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Feb 2023 at 11:30am
Coutta View Drop Down
Gold
Gold


Joined: 14 Jan 2009
Status: Offline
Points: 653
I've had a 490 and 530 Stabi and a 620 Senator HT. The 490 was a great little boat but with two men and half a dog it was full. The 530 was OK but thumped and was wet. The 620 Senator was a decent boat but still thumped in any sort of a decent head sea. I've now got a FC 535CC and the stabis and the senator just don't compare. If I was looking for a bigger hard top, I wouldn't go past an FC.
Back to Top
Forum Jump
Forum Permissions View Drop Down


This page was generated in 0.293 seconds.

Fishing Reports Visit Reports

Saltwater Fishing Reports
Tauranga Fishing Report - 28/05/26

Tarakihi on the bite Trips are few and far between at this time of year,... Read More >

28 May 2026
Freshwater Fishing Reports
Canterbury Fishing Report - 28/05/26

Fresh and salt turning it on! It is not very often I get to say... Read More >

28 May 2026
Saltwater Fishing Reports
Bay of Islands Fishing Report - 28/05/26

Lures paying dividends We finally had a break in the SE winds that have been... Read More >

28 May 2026
Saltwater Fishing Reports
Manukau/West Coast Fishing Report - 28/05/26

Snapper and gurnard in the harbour The weather has finally taken a turn for the... Read More >

28 May 2026
Fishing bite times Fishing bite times

Major Bites

Minor Bites

Major Bites

Minor Bites