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    Posted: 18 Sep 2007 at 11:22am
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Rod:  Jigging Master JM500

Reel:  Shimano Ocea Jigger 4000P
 
Line:   Jig Star multicoloured 50lb or 80lb
 
Jigs:  Zest Super Deep 300g, 400g
 
Leader:   Seaguar Fluorocarbon 100lb
 
Hook:  Gamakatsu TU35
 
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Well Chris - I really I cant argue with your above selection but this has done the job to date:
 
Reel: Shimano Torsa 30
Rod: Kilwell Speedjig Fibremax
Braid: Jigstar 80lb
Jig: Zest - Deepslim 370? and other Zests Jigs - Standard Hook, Split Ring etc.
 
 
 
 
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mean set ups..
 
what are you targeting with these?
Legasea Legend, the rest of you should be too, $10 a month.

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Originally posted by Plow Plow wrote:

mean set ups..
 
what are you targeting with these?
 
Kingies and Hapuka generally.
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Reel:  Blue Heaven
 
Rod:  Jigging Master JM350
 
Line:  Jig Star multicoloured 50lb braid
 
Jig:  Zest Curved Slider 300g
 
 
and the result? 
 
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Butterworth Jigking an original.
 
Shimano Speed master loaded with 15k with 5m of 24k shock leader.
 
jigs are anything but started with the Mavericks made in oz some 35yrs ago.
 
love jigging its a blast and normally target kings.
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Ocea jigger vs blue heaven (pros cons) your opinion Chris?

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Favourite set this last season? Berkley Dropshot 15-30kg rod, Avex LX 6:1 reel loaded with 50lb braid.
However, have been using a new little Penn Torque 200 on the same rod, and by golly, it was one sweet little set up, for sure.
 
We will just have to see how we go after asparagus season, I may even get me a Penn Torque 400 for something just a little larger line cap., sure are nice reels.
Oh, Jigs? Not that fussy really, have to say my favourites though are definitely the Broken Arrow 420gm ones, pref the green/silver or blue/silver ones.
 
Penn torque 200 on the Berkley Dropshot 15-30kg rod.
 
(This was on a Broken Arrow 200gm jig, but it is a nice photo :-) )
 
cheers all,
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 I use SMITH rods, Nirai 55, Fremantle, WGJ Offshore and WRC class matched with a variety of reels.
 
SMITH make some nice jigs 
 
 
Smith Tackle in action
 
 
I use a variety of reels, overheads and spin reels
 
 
The 20 000 FA would be my favourite
 
 
 
 
Plenty of Zest jigs in my jig roll, love the Zest assist rigs with the solid ring and split ring, pre rigged, very quick and easy plus great perfofmance.
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Nice looking Tackle Captain,Chris W,Twin Power, And Captain Asparagus.

Any comments on Soft Plastic Tailers on Jigs?

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Originally posted by S-P addict S-P addict wrote:

Nice looking Tackle Captain,Chris W,Twin Power, And Captain Asparagus.

Any comments on Soft Plastic Tailers on Jigs?

 
Yeah definately worth putting on the assist hook.  Maybe try it on the tail of the jig and report back.  Would be real interesting to know any difference. 
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rod: jigwrex pe6

reel: accurate boss twindrag 655

line: jig star multi 50

leader: 130 pound 3m windon.

jig: jigging master rocket (blue)

seems to be doing the buisness at the moment.

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That photo of the girls upset my concentration...Big%20smile
 
I've been using Cortland 80lb braid, but recently trialling Western Filament 10kg IGFA-rated Dacron (Discount Fishing Supplies). Trouble is, I need IFGA-rated line for club purposes. Dacron is smaller/lower stretch than mono, but of course not quite the same as superbraid.
 
And because I'm using relatively light line, bottom bust-offs are a greater possibility, therefore cheapish terminal tackle too. Although most fish put up an awesome fight, a bit more time/allow runs and they can be caught on nearly anything. A recent Whangaroa Club record (not mine) was 28kg kingi on 4kg line, so there ya go! (more boring than fun, of course! 2hrs I heard Confused)
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Phecda.......... You can get IGFA rated braid.   Fishb8 uses "Fin" brand and a new IGFA braid has just come on the market, made by YGK from Japan.
 Not cheap though 300m of 80lb test for $US80 
http://cgi.ebay.com/YGK-JIGMAN-X8-78lb-300m-IGFA-class-P-E-line-Japan_W0QQitemZ140133131606QQihZ004QQcategoryZ62154QQcmdZViewItem
check out this site.
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Originally posted by kaveman kaveman wrote:

Phecda.......... You can get IGFA rated braid.
 
Thanks Kaveman. I'm was only aware of one so far, via Trademe,
"PINK BRAID 6lb" which is dyneema and claimed IGFA-rated.
 
Realistically, and though club rules vary, my club has a max rating of 10kg for snapper, and Kingfish must exceed lineweight, which makes a realistic max of 15kg. Anything else is disqualified for all club purposes.
 
Dacron seems fine. It's low-stretch. But dyneema would be better because the smaller diameter presumably means less water drag.
 
I suspect the situation may improve with dyneema. It seems the ONLY material where it is claimed hard to control breaking strength. I think the manufacturers have to try harder, and obviously some of them are.
 
Also, Mark Kitteridge in the latest NZFN, says the nominal breaking strains of typical dyneema are just a joke.
 
Thankyou for the alert, alert Kaveman!
 
Of course, some dont care about club scene, but they record ALL submitted catches in the yearbook (I might want to record a personal record say), and if it's not IGFA it is recorded with "DISQUALIFIED".
 
(I know this stuff will rev Chris Wong up, as we previously discussed IGFA braid issues )
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Braided line manufacturers can only buy their GSP fibres from one of two fibre manufacturers in the world - Honeywell and DSM. (I may be wrong).  The fibre denier sizes are ordered specifically for the finished line strenght and the braiding configuration used, but are not made to any strict guideline. Therefore the fibre strenght maybe + _ 10% producing a finished line of + _10% or worst.  Dacron lines have been around for decades now so it is obviously easier to make a bulkier dacron line to tighter tolerences and very thin lines is much harder and near impossible in the case of GSP braids.  No braided line maker wants to risk reputation or being sued for an IGFA line that only a small minority of world fishermen would buy - sorry.
 
As to the concerns of big fish on inappropriate light line - well that's another argument.  
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As a matter of interest, I pre-test all my IGFA lines on the club tester, and my Western Filament 10kg dacron seemed to test at 8.5kg, which I thought low being more than 10% out (but in a "safe" direction).
 
Western Filament 37kg Dacron tested by me at about 36.5kg, with one test giving 37.2, which I thought a bit marginal for comfort.
 
I'm sorry Chris, but "small minority of world fishermen" is wrong.
 
The ONLY competitive fishing rules/level playing field are those of IGFA.
 
Line class IS as important as fish weight. As evidenced by the IGFA points formula FishWt/LineWt *100. That is, so long as we continue with fish weight being important, then so is line weight.
 
This doesn't mean I agree with all IGFA rules, there's just nothing better. For instance, I'm mostly a single-hander. IGFA rules mean you can have a whole rugby team to hold the leader, but you cant tie it off! (IGFA recognise, because I have a letter, that the rules are not designed for single-handers)
 
There is another type of "fair competition" I have read about, where all competitors are supplied with the SAME LINE. In this case, it would be fair even though outside IGFA.
 
But the main point is, I have no choice but IGFA, if I want to do club "competitve" fishing, that is.
 
It looks to me like, there is the start of a trend to make dyneema IGFA compatible. Otherwise, I might just as well dong them with my anchor and haul them up with my anchor chain and electric winch LOL
 
(my most memorable catches have been: 15kg kingi on 8kg line, 4.5kg snapper on 1kg line, 9.8kg albacore on 2kg line, 71kg marlin on 15kg line. A 25kg kingfish on 35kg line, doesn't really count for anything to me coz I just wound it in)
 
IGFA Dyneema is coming, Guys!
 
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I also have something to say on rods. I have been told by "shop professionals" that a rod should never be taken to more than 45deg from the line.
 
BS. A rod provides "springiness", and the best "springiness" is at 90deg to the line! It is simple engineering principles!
 
If the rod bends such that the tip is in-line with the line, then it may still work but has effectively lost "length and springiness". Some of the above piccies are too light a rod for the circumstances!!! Spectacular sure, but basically stupid.
 
I discussed this very thing with Bruce Duncan (Captain Swish), not so long ago. By my recollection, he agreed with me, at least in regards to VERY light line. (which was my concern at the time)
 
A rod which bends too much, LOSES LENGTH!!! There are NO positives!!! Well, maybe you caught a larger fish than expected, that would be a positive!
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Dont listen to shop proffesionals would be the answer,talk to a rod builder and you will learn how a jig rod works..Why dont jig rods have alloy reel seats when they run such huge drags...because they bend all the way to the reel seat...have a look closely ay chris,s photos,dont doubt the master bro ...definately not stupid...and definately not too light ...jm rods could stop a whaleWink
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