 Schampy wrote:Really did feel like stepping backwards 10 years going back to bait and burly. The cost,mess and small gut hooked fish was annoying. |
| letsgetem wrote: One thing - I dont think the collapsible pot would have enough weight to get down reliably to the bottom - so would have to have another weight in the bag. |
| Kandrew wrote: I recon sliders would be great for kids to learn to fish with and a small strip of squid on the bottom hook helps to get the fish on the bite. |
| The Tamure Kid wrote: Yip, bait and berley is definitely useful for kids fishing. I use 5/0 or 6/0 circle hooks (Gammie or Mustad Demon) on strayline rigs and find they have a good hook up rate with almost zero gut hooking. I encourage the kids to just draw the bait away from the fish if they are getting nibbles, and usually they hook up. Rod holder is handy too. In terms of berley system for harbour fishing, I use a cheap plastic basket (blue) from the Warehouse etc, weighted to the bottom with a strip of lead inside the basket. you could also thread a heavy sinker down the rope. That keeps it fairly vertical in light to moderate current in 8-15m. Any deeper and i think you need something like a Wobbly Pot. Tied off to the corner, it attracts jack mackerels which we catch with sabikis (which in itself is great fun for the kids) and use as fresh bait. Those baskets only fit the 1.5kg size bombs, but if I can only get 3kg I cut them in half. I used to love the NZ Salmon berleys, but have had trouble sourcing good salmon ones in the past couple of seasons. They seem to be too chunky, not enough slick created. I guess if you have a wider gauge mesh, a la wobbly pot, the chunky size doesn't make as much difference. The long lasting berley 'sausages' in yellow packaging are also useful to keep in the boat. They work well and create a fine trail. I recommend supplementing berley with chunked up pillies (last trip's re-frozen ones). Many times I've noticed those chunks in the guts of snapper we've caught. Kandrew is on to it re the storage afterwards. Strategic use of buckets etc to keep everything tidy is key to keeping your boat from turning into an abattoir and empty plastic packaging blowing over the side. |
| Kandrew wrote: When I used to bait fish I had a wobbly pot which have a lot more weight than the collapsible ones. I had a 20litre paint bucket I just dropped the whole thing into when I pulled it up. |
| The Tamure Kid wrote: Yip, bait and berley is definitely useful for kids fishing. I use 5/0 or 6/0 circle hooks (Gammie or Mustad Demon) on strayline rigs and find they have a good hook up rate with almost zero gut hooking. I encourage the kids to just draw the bait away from the fish if they are getting nibbles, and usually they hook up. Rod holder is handy too. In terms of berley system for harbour fishing, I use a cheap plastic basket (blue) from the Warehouse etc, weighted to the bottom with a strip of lead inside the basket. you could also thread a heavy sinker down the rope. That keeps it fairly vertical in light to moderate current in 8-15m. Any deeper and i think you need something like a Wobbly Pot.
Tied off to the corner, it attracts jack mackerels which we catch with sabikis (which in itself is great fun for the kids) and use as fresh bait. Those baskets only fit the 1.5kg size bombs, but if I can only get 3kg I cut them in half. I used to love the NZ Salmon berleys, but have had trouble sourcing good salmon ones in the past couple of seasons. They seem to be too chunky, not enough slick created. I guess if you have a wider gauge mesh, a la wobbly pot, the chunky size doesn't make as much difference. The long lasting berley 'sausages' in yellow packaging are also useful to keep in the boat. They work well and create a fine trail. I recommend supplementing berley with chunked up pillies (last trip's re-frozen ones). Many times I've noticed those chunks in the guts of snapper we've caught. Kandrew is on to it re the storage afterwards. Strategic use of buckets etc to keep everything tidy is key to keeping your boat from turning into an abattoir and empty plastic packaging blowing over the side.
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| Schampy wrote: Yeah I get it... when children are involved keeping things simple as possible is key. I never fish near foul or with braid/jigs with kids. Snapper flashers,mono and a burly bomb , anchored on the sand up-current from a weed edge was always my go-to when kids/ mrs on board. On my centre console years back -tying the burly bag to the top of the anchor chain worked a treat. kept it clear of lines, spread down low and with the boat tugging on the warp it kept it well dispersed. This does not work so well with a boat with an electric winch, unless you enjoy scraping oily mush off ya drum winch , fairlead, and chain when you winch up anchor and forget that its tied on and rip the whole lot through ya fairlead..... I will neither confirm nor denie that I have done this. |
| letsgetem wrote: Ive used berley for a long time. Heres what I do - note Im not trying to make out my system is the best. - i used to use a collapsible type pot, but as I said, it wasnt heavy enough to get down near the bottom. So I put lead weights in it, which worked, but I lost weights every now and then, so I changed to a wobbly pot - thats got netting around a sizable steel spiral. Enough weight to get down, and room for the biggest 5kg berleys, I think. Changed to 3kg berleys. That lasted about 1.5hrs, still not really enough but ok. Now I cut the 3kg berley in half, which lasts longer about 2hrs. |
| letsgetem wrote: Ive used berley for a long time. Heres what I do - note Im not trying to make out my system is the best. - i used to use a collapsible type pot, but as I said, it wasnt heavy enough to get down near the bottom. So I put lead weights in it, which worked, but I lost weights every now and then, so I changed to a wobbly pot - thats got netting around a sizable steel spiral. Enough weight to get down, and room for the biggest 5kg berleys, I think. Changed to 3kg berleys. That lasted about 1.5hrs, still not really enough but ok. Now I cut the 3kg berley in half, which lasts longer about 2hrs. |
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