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    Posted: 02 Jul 2012 at 9:12am
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http://jignpopforum.com/topic/566-canyon-djr-6500-spinning-the-review/
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Tested this reel under a different brand name back in the summer... strong rotor, massive drag, massive spool shaft.
Cast like a pig due to the shape of the spool lip and weight of the reel , a very heavy reel that felt unbalanced was one report the tester feed back...  a lot of exposed untreated brass under the spool that would corrode with saltwater, too slow for stickbaits or poppers, the internals would be my biggest ??? as to what grade of material the gearing has been machined from as 30kg of possible drag will put extreme pressure on the guts... looking bling and being fit for purpose would be the next ??? fort $300 it would reflect what you are getting...
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Pretty comprehensive test. That guy is deservedly respected for his thoroughness. His comparison of the daiwa and the shimano was also very interesting reading.
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Wow, that guy really goes the extra mile.  That has to be one of the most in depth reviews I've ever seen.  But as he makes some fairly serious accusations about the claims made by Canyon I guess he had to be on pretty solid ground, after all the US is known for litigation.
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Nice Review

He does an out standing job there.

I have also seen this reel under a Different brand...interesting really.
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MIB only the spool hub is brass in the reel reviewed, the drive train appears to be a stainless steel, doesnt brass typically resist corrosion pretty well after initially oxidizing...... port holes used to be made of the stuff?
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Wow what a review from Alan, still goes to show that there are still those out there who will lie through their teeth just to sell something...
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Originally posted by Titahi Titahi wrote:

MIB only the spool hub is brass in the reel reviewed, the drive train appears to be a stainless steel, doesnt brass typically resist corrosion pretty well after initially oxidizing...... port holes used to be made of the stuff?
Brass is typically a metal used in the marine industry but it still needs to be protected to stop it turning green and breaking down if exposed to saltwater..
 
As for Stainless Steel they will need to be of the Austenitic 203 or 303 grade which has a higher sulphur and phosphurous content allowing for better free machining and wear properties, if they have used any of the other two grades that fall into the Ferritic and Martensitic series of chromium alloys they will fail real quick... 
The 303 grades are used for spur gears, straight cut gears and angle cut bevel gears  with a rockwell hardness of about 260 max but they are not as corrosion proof due to the lower chromium contect... It also depends if the gears were annealed before machining then re-tempered to the correct hardness ..
 
416 is the only free machining grade in the Martensitic range but it's not suited to gearing...
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Interesting, thanks for that. I suppose it would be difficult to tell what was used given the companys propensity for misleading and outright untruthful statements.....
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I import this reel from the state's but i know the components are from asia. Canyon have always told me that.
I prefer to buy the reel off them because they offer a better warranty than the asian factories do, and they keep an eye on the quality control and do the final assembly in the states.
I caught a 133kg striped marlin on one earlier this year and it handled it fine.
It's going to retail between $649 and $729 NZD here and come with a 2 year warranty and one free service within 3 years of purchase. I carry all parts and have a service agent in Auckland.
Its not a stella or saltiga but its a great reel for the money and capable of catching big fish.
 
Thats my take on it.
 
It will be in retailers and on my new website kiwifishing.co.nz from next month.
 
kiwifishing is representing 3 brands in NZ so far.
 
Studio ocean mark
Ocean tackle international
Canyon reels
 
If any of you want info on these products please PM me.
 
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"All there reels are assembled in NJ America using parts from the US and Asia." FEB 2012
 
"I import this reel from the state's but i know the components are from asia. Canyon have always told me that."  
 
 Funny while they where telling you one thing they where telling the rest of the world another thing. And clearly they arent assembled in America, just marketed as such...
 Your right the reels will sell on there own merits and you will no doubt sell a few, and you stand behind them as does the parent comppany apparently?  I think the thing that has upset   the "red necks" ( your description of them) here...http://www.fishing.net.nz/asp_forums/canyon- reels_topic75485.html?KW=canyon is the misleading marketing and advertising in an attempt to garner a more favourable outlook.
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So, this reel costs US$80 in China (probably less if you buy in bulk).  It is imported into the USA and they sell them for US$300.  It is being imported into NZ from the US and will sell for NZ$700.  The US$80 price would be NZ$99.35 at current exchange rates, which makes a 700% markup by the time we buy them. Everyone has to make a living, but this is getting a bit silly.  I could buy a very good Shimano reel, with a 10 year warranty, from my local tacke shop for that kind of money -and get a rod with it.
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Thanks for your comments I'll pass them onto don from canyon reels.
I personally haven't miss lead anyone so I'll let him address this.

But I'll say once again for the money the reel is value for money.
I haven't seen many other medium priced spinning reels catch 133kg marlin!
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Kevin,

The retail takes into account the shops margin, warranty, 1 service, all parts available. And a local agent to talk to.
It's all ways much much cheaper if you buy off the factory direct in Asia throu eBay but you don't get any back up.
It's similar to buying cheap shimano off torpedo7 rather than a proper retailer.
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I think that the Consumer Guarantees Act means that Torpedo 7 has the same responsibilities as a so called proper retailer, no different in the eyes of the law.
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I agree,

But they are selling direct and cutting out the retailer.

If I did the same my reels would be cheaper but I prefer to support the industry!
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Originally posted by JIMMY NAIL JIMMY NAIL wrote:

Thanks for your comments I'll pass them onto don from canyon reels.
I personally haven't miss lead anyone so I'll let him address this.

But I'll say once again for the money the reel is value for money.
I haven't seen many other medium priced spinning reels catch 133kg marlin!
Cheers
Here's a 100+lb bluefin tuna on a $300 reel.
I didn't look but I bet there are loads more, when I bought a Fin Nor the dealer had a DVD playing of them catching marlin on the offshore spin reels.
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Yes mate BA got the marlin on a finor! And solo.

Nice tuna that
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Originally posted by JIMMY NAIL JIMMY NAIL wrote:

Yes mate BA got the marlin on a finor! And solo.

Nice tuna that

not about the fin-nor mate you got a bigger one on the Canyon mate and I take my hat of to you for nailing it
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