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    Posted: 27 May 2024 at 7:24pm
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Chanced across this strange knot, not quite FG not quite bimini ...definitely not PR
But does look so easy to tie and can be strong! 
Anyone knows what this is called ?

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I can see that failing. Any weight and the braid will pull through imo.
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It looks to use the same concept of using the braid as a 'sock' that the FG uses, each of those initial crossovers grips the mono. As for the nine half hitches, I use 2 or 3 on an FG  and a 3 turn rizutto to finish.  Melting the ends only creates a hard spur for the knot to catch on which would be a bugger when casting. I am guessing it really is just an alternate way to tie an FG but I doubt it is any easier. 
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Looks like someone gave up on the FG half way thru   and finished  it off with a bunch of 1/2 hitches .
I wish I was young again .... Id be heaps smarter than this time
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that's what i thought ... very FG-like but a number of half hitches and ending with a rozito or what ever u call that knot... 
i will try it and see.... cinching is key though
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Originally posted by takuman takuman wrote:

that's what i thought ... very FG-like but a number of half hitches and ending with a rozito or what ever u call that knot... 
i will try it and see.... cinching is key though

There is absolutely no need for so many half hitches or such a big Rizutto knot to finish. I only really fish lightish braid but a knot usually lasts me a year or so. I'm pretty sure I could tie an FG quicker than it would take someone to tie it the same as in the video - and it would cast and retrieve smoother without the meted ends.

While I never got to test an FG during The Nationals as I was using mono I didn't lose a fish to knot failure on 3kg using a 30m mono topshot over 10lb braid, I'm sure the FG would have been the least of my problems. They are such a reliable knot. I reckon an 18lb snap on that gear is a reasonable test of my knots.  My mate lost 2 or 3 nice snapper on 2kg to knot failure so I retied his knots and he didn't lose one after that (plus he got NZ champion angler for snapper on 2kg with a 15 lb or so fish) so I figure my knots are working well
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Ya know the more I look at that knot  the more I think that the knob on the end of the mono is all thats holding it together . The FG part would be the only real grip on the mono but that looks loose and a bit random ( like when you loose track  wether your winding the mono round the mainline or the tag ErmmBig smile). 
I too try to get a trout season out of one FG  but I have 2 rod lengths of fluro. I figure there is enough for a few trimmings  and  long enough for the fish's eye . Better too now that I dont chuck it in the bush on the other side so much. Anyone else notice that the value of the snagged lure is proportional to its difficulty of retrievability , oh  yeah , an being able to see it dangling  from the branch after bust off doesn't help either  CensoredLOL
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Yep, there is no way I could keep any knot for more than a day if i was casting around trees
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