Ramco Dominator 55 w/Suzuki 80Hp 4Stroke

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    Posted: 07 Mar 2021 at 3:02pm
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Hello,
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Wondering if anyone has any knowledge on, or own a Ramco Dominator 55 w/Suzuki DF80A motor.
I am looking at buying one with lots of extras as an upgrade to my Surtees Workmate 4.7m w/Evinrude E-Tec 60Hp (2009).
(The equivalent Surtees 5.4m hardtop is $15k more expensive and I doubt worth the additional expense).
Any responses welcomed.
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I know a lot of people like the Surtees so expect you will get a good price.

Length matters.
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Thanks. Yeah the Surtees are a good boat but my 4.7m a little small and 5.8m too heavy to handle on my own at home so 5.5 could be a suitable option.
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Surtees are small for their length. The 495 workmate has about 3500mm at the waterline. Of course the Surtees have that deep vee. Every boat is a compromise.
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Ramco appear to be still using Scott Robson for their designs - so that is a good start.

internal floor- to - gunwale height appears lower than average - i would ask them to supply measurement.

when considering price, i take it you are comparing similar spec, possible freight costs and the superior resale that the Surtees carry?

80hp suzuki should be okay unless you load it up with weight

there was a member here, who previously posted about problems he had with alloy trailer cracking - might pay to investigate...
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I think you are asking about Ramco FM 5.5, I believe they are a good basic all round hull.

Mr Krow has had a few, lets see if he chimes in...
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What year. I think the later boats are different? 

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I had a 1995 Ramco 580 Fish Master. A functional boat, and the new owner has upgraded it with a four stroke yamaha, and still catches some great fish including it's first ever marlin boated this year.

It was a wet boat though, loved to drop it's bow into any hole it could find. 

Frankly, I'd spend the extra 15k and go for the surtees hardtop.

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OP needs to clarify if they are talking about a new build from CHCH or an older 'original' RAmco from HAM
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I live near Rangiora where they are made. Look like functional reliable boats, based on nothing more than a climb over and looksee. I don't see any reason why I'd spend the extra on a Surtees, but then I've not actually ridden either boat so take that for what it's worth. 

Fit and finish look good as well. If there's anything particular you want to know I can take some photos next time I'm in town. 
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Power to the max manufactures recommendation.
Going on a few numbers have pulled off the 6m dominator with a 150hp recently , (max speced hp 150)  it is nicely powered with 2 ppl and full load gear /tanks etc.
 So assume that Ramco have built and speced well for good AND SAFE performance in the other models in chop bars etc.

Rule of thumb if head outside into possible chop etc, power to the max spec.
A well powered boat around that size will hit around 42 mph on flat water with full normal load.


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Thanks for your comments. The 5.5m Ramco is brand new. extra's include 100Ltr underfloor fuel, Bimini canopy, side curtains, road cover, drum winch, rocket launcher, bait station, 2 lifejackets, extinguisher WOF & rego on galvanised braked trailer with stainless rotors.
The Surtees is a different boat, also brand new. It's 5.4m, hardtop, Suzuki 100Hp, all other extra's as for Ramco. Price diff is $9k.
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New build is from Rangiora.
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Brand new.
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The Surtees 5.4 with the 100hp would be my pick. Better resale and the new 5.4 are a great boat more beam than the older 5.5 and go just as well. The 100hp Suzi will be very economical and have good power and torque.  I am slightly biased though.
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Yep, everything is a compromise of requirements and finance
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Looking back on my data bases, surtees require a little more power on the back for the same results ( amount reserve power right thru the general 'working' rpm range..
 Just thought..

going back over posts , this popped out
Bit off subject.
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5.8m too heavy to handle on my own at home so 5.5 could be a suitable option.

What do you mean ?
I ask this because to change boats for something like that is rather an expensive option... maybe post up the issue and someone may come up with a simple issue.

Something as simple as winding the jockey wheel right up on a single axle trailer makes it easier to move... or down on a duel axle. assuming the hitch weight is correct for towing.
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Hi Steps, Reason posted is that a good mate has a Surtees 5.85 w/115Yammy and it is too heavy to manoeuvre at his place as it would be at mine. The additional trailer weight is the main reason so I need to go smaller. Anyway, all responses considered, I have got my trade-in price for my workmate 4.7 and have decided to go with the Ramco option. Phil Birss Marine have been very easy to deal with and offered a more than competitive package, built to my specs. 
Thanks to all for their suggestions and advice.  
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Cool.. the more im looking at my historical data, reading talking tp ppl who have them... keep in mind Im still undecided to go from Glass to Alloy, even shallow river cheeks / bar  etc...right up there is Ramco around the 6m/ 150 plus hp to replace the Commander..

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Hi Capt G. Yep-I've owned a 5.5 Surtees Fisherman and I have also been in pretty much all of the other Surtees models as well as a mates 5.5 Ramco Fisher (older model). You are definitely looking at value for money...no question but I have a couple of comments. My mates old Ramco was a pounder and he had to virtually slow right down and wallow through any slop, and as said above used to take off sideways sometimes going downwind or a swell so you had on be on the ball watching it like a hawk, and as also said above weett as! The Surtees aren't innocent either but the BIG difference you will notice is in the ride as this is the Surtees signature asset. Surtees can get wet too don't worry but is usually confined to the quartering aspects whereas I found the Ramco to be wet over the bow with any raised up sea. All said above I have no idea what the new Ramcos are like....they may have sorted a lot of the above by now. Happy fishing!Smile
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