Multipurpose rod

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    Posted: 21 Jan 2017 at 7:30pm
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Hi all, I am looking to head up the Marlborough sounds in late march. I'm wanting a rod that's capable for the likes of blue cod, large snapper and even kningies. Is there such a thing? There seems to be a lot of different types of rods, from cod setups kingies and jigging. Is it worth spending a bit more for a better brand? I want something that will last, even one rod and two reels could be an option?
I'm obviously a bit of a newbie when it comes to sea/boat fishing
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Do you prefer to fish with an overhead reel or a spinning reel?
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Im not too worried, have used both but mainly a spin reel
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If you're going to focus on bait fishing, there are quite a few rods which will handle catching fish right from cod up to kingies. 

A significant factor is how robust you want the rod to be.
Many modern rods are made from graphite, or a composite of graphite and fibreglass. Graphite is light and powerful, but fragile. Glass is much more forgiving of being bent at funny angles, left in rod holders etc, but is heavier.
Another question is what weight line you want to use, and if you want to use monofilament (nylon) or braid.
And as Stripstrike says, overhead or spin set up? The deeper the water, the more you probably want to think about overhead.

Relatively inexpensive options to consider would be (all come in spin or overhead formats):
1. the Daiwa VIP870 - one of the all time classics, nice and flexible in the tip, but plenty of grunt as well. Fibreglass. Has good Fuji components.
2. any of the Ugly Stiks in the 8-10kg line rating. Similar rods to the VIP, glass with a graphite core. Almost unbreakable. Good Fuji components. The Black Tiger is a popular model.
3. An Okuma X Factor in the 10kg class - a composite, so a bit lighter than the first two mentioned, but a bit more fragile.

Particularly the first two rods I've mentioned, combined with a quality reel, should last a long time if you look after them well - in terms of cleaning, not attaching hooks to rod guides, spraying with Inox after use etc.

Somewhere like Hunting and Fishing in the Nelson/Picton/Blenheim area should be able to sort you out with a good boat rod combo suited to the Sounds. you're probably looking at $350 min for a quality combo.

If you want to do kingfish jigging, which tests rods and reels and anglers to the limit, then you really need specialist gear. There are some absolute horse kingies in the Sounds, from what I've seen on ITM Fishing Show etc. Short graphite rods, and reels with massive drag capability. That gear isn't cheap.



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Penn have got some good 9-10ft models out now. About $150 too so won't bust any budgets.
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I don't know much about fishing in the Marlborough Sounds, but was going to suggest a soft bait rod at the heavier end, matched with a small Baitrunner. This will cover soft baiting, casting lures at kahawai, light vertical jigging (i.e. slow jigging) and straylining with baits.

I'm a bit biased towards lure fishing, but think it would be a reasonable compromise, it would be on the north island anyway.

If on the other hand, the fishing is more about bait fishing on the bottom with heavy weights, a more traditional boat rod would be better. I'd go overhead reel plus braid to go with this.
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Good suggestions, too. A soft bait/light jig crossover would be great for lure fishing and light straylining - especially something fairly forgiving like an X Factor or one of the cheaper Shimano composites. The Apex series is cheap. 

The big assumption I made was that total newbies tend to gravitate towards bait fishing to start with.

My impression is it's ledger rig fishing mostly, down there, and there can be quite a bit of current to content with.

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Cheers guys, some good options to look at, I think I will go with too rods which will hopefully cover most situations.
I'm on a farm down central Otago so it's a bit far for me to pop into hunting and fishing or the likes, is there a good online store to use?
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Marine Deals nz,  good prices, selection and fast deleivery.  Just check with them tho as if you are a rural delivery address it could cost more or have to pickup from nearest depot/town.
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Yip, Marine Deals.
Compare deals with Smart Marine, Fullon Fishing, and Fishing Direct. They are all N. Island-based.
My suggestion re Hunting & Fishing was if you wanted to pop in when you get there, get some local advice and buy some gear. 
H&F have some combos where you basically pay full price for a reel, and get a glass-based rod for about $10. But they tend to be their own exclusive line of lower budget rods such as the Raider, or the widely sold Aquatip.
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If you're talking bait fishing and can go to 2 rods... I'd get one 10-15kg setup for general purpose stuff and one 24kg broomhandle setup for puka and kingies. Should cover you off for 95% of fishing at that end of the island.
Substitute the 24kg set for a spin jigging setup if you want to do a bit of that, make sure to get a large enough reel to drop deep if you need to as well, you'll want ~400m of 50lb braid on it.
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http://www.marine-deals.co.nz/tica-expert-704-4pc-15kg-traveling-boat-spin-rod
Good general purpose rod...sold out on this site, though.
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