another good write up,

yet we still haven't managed to make them say they are fully at fault, F#*K thick skinned.


http://thedailyblog.co.nz/2016/09/25/collusion-corruption-contradictions-and-cover-ups-in-fishing-industry-stink/

Still I think something is wrong - no smoke without fire etc...the truth may be in the middle - but lets put cameras in every boat run by an independent body and see what is really happening now?

Tzer wrote: It seem everybody is a bloody expert these days when it comes to fisheries management.

I'm no expert either and don't profess to have all the answers if any but all I'm hearing is continual b!cthing & moaning from all quarters. Legasea wants a commission of inquiry, Mowerman & Lethal plus others want protests, general public haven't a clue other than what they have been fed from the media and social media. As for the various political parties all they are looking for is just political point scoring (and votes) do you really think that any of them would have done any better at managing the fishery, lets not forget who implemented the QMS in the first place and it wasn't National.
I'm not saying that there isn't any problems within the QMS system that could be looked at or improved but I don't see anybody putting forward any tangible alternatives that may convince the government to do a total overhaul or scrap the QMS altogether.
So which of you has the answers.

Plus the unwarranted destruction of non target species as played a major part reducing all fish stocks

Non selectivity of methods
Spawning areas
Spawning seasons
Habitat destruction

Equals
Fish gone

Money money..backhanders to government

here is a very wise mans reply to the herald,

great read.

This is a comment from anonymous...
As for the fishermen once afraid to speak up..... They should be OK now the gangster has gone from MPI. Although I know some personally who are still scared.
And the immunity from prosecution related to breaches of issues the MPI could enforce. ..not areas of tax.
But the big money was never theirs. If it's public knowledge now, that it was Sanfords boat that unloaded the undocumented fish caught in excess of quota, and that it must have sold, then in keeping with the current blitz on tradies accepting cash payments to avoid gst and tax, then that path should be applied in this case too.
The justification for not persuing prosecution dues not apply because MPI were not the enforcement agent for tax evasion.
The IRD is. And there is a much longer time on tax issues. .
Any fishermen assisting in following the money trail should be offered immunity .
This is of huge significance because it involves the biggest Co caught apparently ripping off the tax payer.
And Peter Goodfellow, chairman of the National Party, is a director of Sanfords.
So he had to know what was going on.
The IRD have the power to make estimate of value of that and other catches and it's up to the accused to prove innocence.
I suggest there could many millions of dollars involved.
And the proceeds of sales of that unlawful catch are the proceeds of crime. Much more than just tax evasion.
I suggest there may be reasons the IRD has not taken interest in this that are not ethically but politically motivated.
The influence of senior politicians also extends to suppression and control of what they don't want us to know.
Just try getting the CPI from Statistics dept, calculated as it was prior to 1999 with land values included.
We live in a world where power is used to exploit.
In this case we have enough evidence to initiate investigation by IRD.
My question is why haven't they acted and I hope the answer is not because of political affiliation of director and his high profile position within the National party.
Once again this was never anything the MPI could grant immunity to. And the IRD is required to act .

Apart from continually moaning and maybe giving a donation to LegaSea, what have any of you actually done?

So you've really not done a lot?
Why not get yourself into a position of influence, and make a positive change?
Sitting at your keyboard hacking out rants day after day achieves what exactly?

what have I done?
Ive read the ramblings of some people that have done a great job in making sure that I keep well away from these type of threads.
They are not a balanced view, simply blame others for doing the wrong thing.
How many times do you see these people suggesting closed areas for recs or a reduced take for recs to (and I use their words) save the future of fishing?
We all need to do something not point the finger at the commercial all the time.
There is little doubt that a lot of commercial people have broken the law (wether written or by spirit) but the problem is all of New Zealands
First time Ive bothered to read this for ages and will be the last time in hopefully the next 5 years.
Have fun pointing fingers and playing the blame game. Have fun chasing supporters away guys, good luck to these threads but I cant be bothered with this nonconstructive rubbish

I top the list for turn up at MPI meeting...where were the rest of you ..on fish. net giving pugwash a hard time ? or in TZERS case hes just trying to prove hes a man  by trolling