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Who could imagine that you could get a thrill from catching a flounder.
Makes a change from throwing light lures for kahawai from the river bank.
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I'm really keen to give this a crack. What sort of jigheads and lures should I buy?
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I’m keen on this as well, I thought up by the weti boat club could be a good spot.
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That's wicked! Very cool. I have never tried lures for flounder but for 5 years or so I'd take a fly rod or a spin rod with a weighted nymph when ever i went spearing. Every single time I saw a fish I'd go spear it. I have no will power. Well done Keith, the would go real hard on 2kg line
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Look for Albert Lyu on YouTube. He knows what he is doing and I’ve just gleaned off his videos.



You can get heaps of cheap, small sofbaits off The Warehouse online. Otherwise, you have to try some of the international online places like Alibaba or Temu. Jigheads I use are 1/16 or 1/8 Oz. You can find these sometimes in the freshwater fishing sections of local stores. Australia carries both suitable jigheads and soft plastics because they use them for bream.

I am fishing 2 or 4 lb braid and 6 to 8 lb fluoro leader. Hooker on TradMe is very reasonable for light fluorocarbon.
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Thanks for the info. Are you sight-casting? or just twitching along the edge of the channel? I am thinking Wenderholm or Waiwera might be worth a stalk.
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Originally posted by Telecaster Telecaster wrote:

Thanks for the info. Are you sight-casting? or just twitching along the edge of the channel? I am thinking Wenderholm or Waiwera might be worth a stalk.


Bit of both, as the water is so often dirty, but I know the flounder frequent the target zone. Dry on dead low but I fish when it is about 30 cm on outgoing or incoming. About 1 km upstream of the mouth. Can’t see what they are eating either, and their guts are full of mud.
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Do you think a weighted nymph would work Keith? Do you fish during the day or at night? Incoming tide?
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Line fishing for flounder could become the new squid fishing . I'm keen to have a go too
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Well done! I follow Albert Lyu, but have yet to emulate his success. 
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Originally posted by smudge smudge wrote:

Do you think a weighted nymph would work Keith? Do you fish during the day or at night? Incoming tide?


Don't know about the weighted nymph but you could try Smudge. Fishing incoming or outgoing in daylight (was middle of the day today).
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I know flounder are around all day but they get very wary when there's a lot of light. Pretty sure my 'skills' would send them scurrying anytime I don't need a head lamp
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Originally posted by Telecaster Telecaster wrote:

Thanks for the info. Are you sight-casting? or just twitching along the edge of the channel? I am thinking Wenderholm or Waiwera might be worth a stalk.

Good thinking. Quite a while ago I watched presumably the same guy on YouTube and it looked like upper Waitemata or one of those estuaries just north of Auckland - Stillwater etc. there was a walking path in the background, old tyres in the mud, bush lining part of the far bank.

I think it's sight fishing if the water is clear and dead still, and blind if not. You'd need a reasonable ratio of flounder to make it worthwhile - any place where spearing is good at night, the fish will be there in daytime, but more wary.

It was about this time of the year when I did some spearing in the Covid era, and I was just thinking that this morning when it was like a millpond as I waited for the ferry to work, that I should do a spearing mission.
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A while ago  I bought some old boys fishing kit   and he had heaps of limerick hooks ..... really long shank  and I didnt know what youd use them for ....... now I do .  get one with the gape you want ( I think most small jig heads have to big a hook )   and bend  to length  ( like a normal jig head hook )  and clamp a   1, 1.5 ,2 ,3, 5 or 7g split shot ( just ordered them off Temu )
 Should check out their soft baits too ..... some you could just chop in half / fillet   them and get two nice small flounder sized ones 
 
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I have sussed out a bit of water ( google earth is your friend ) that just must be crawling with flounder Big smile  limited access from road ,  ,last km by 4wd quad which is good coz most peeps dont bother, ( only got one leg so walkin is out  ) on a semi formed  riparian track   ( look it up TongueLOL). Problem is that to get there on my  quad I have to sneak 10km's down back roads ( cant be arsed trailering it )  and the handbrake wont have a bar of that  ( i have history Ermm ) so I have to wait till she goes to work ..........and the tide is about right  next couple of days .
 Im going to try red, green and pink  30mm softbaits with a bit of sauce on it   and raw prawns on a  jig head , and Im also going to try just dragging a metal lure along the bottom . 
If I have a good day you wont be able to shut me up ( pix an everything )..... bad day and you wont hear a thingLOL 
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Originally posted by The Tamure Kid The Tamure Kid wrote:

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I think it's sight fishing if the water is clear and dead still, and blind if not. 
 
 Well  I was thinking that a flounder aint that easy to see when your standing on them  so sighting them at any distance thru water  would be nigh on impossible ..... unless it moved  and then youd be lucky .  I reckon after a  bit of a reccie to find a fishy looking  spot ,  its chuck and chance  from then on . Im thinkin that creating a bit of a trail or sand puffs  will be seen at some distance by the flounder  and they are more aggressive feeders than I thought so  I think they will "chase " the lure  a bit .


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I took a fly rod with me every time I went flounder spearing for two whole years (it was only 5 times Smudge). The idea was to spy a flounder from the shore at night, which is pretty easy. I was rigged up with an unweighted nymph which I figured looked like something a flounder would eat. The trouble is every time I saw a flounder worth taking I would go and spear it.

I've seen quite a few flounder in the daytime but they are very wary (poet). Good luck Mr Tool, I hope you get some
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yeah I figured Id be lucky to see one before it saw me  in daylight   so  Im going for a bit of distance . I wonder if chucking in a few berley pellets upstream a bit  might concentrate them up a bit 
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Originally posted by smudge smudge wrote:

I took a fly rod with me every time I went flounder spearing for two whole years (it was only 5 times Smudge). The idea was to spy a flounder from the shore at night, which is pretty easy. I was rigged up with an unweighted nymph which I figured looked like something a flounder would eat. The trouble is every time I saw a flounder worth taking I would go and spear it.

I've thought about doing the same thing, but with softbait gear, then I had a word with myself!
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Originally posted by Mc Tool Mc Tool wrote:

Originally posted by The Tamure Kid The Tamure Kid wrote:

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I think it's sight fishing if the water is clear and dead still, and blind if not. 
 
 Well  I was thinking that a flounder aint that easy to see when your standing on them  so sighting them at any distance thru water  would be nigh on impossible ..... unless it moved  and then youd be lucky .  I reckon after a  bit of a reccie to find a fishy looking  spot ,  its chuck and chance  from then on . Im thinkin that creating a bit of a trail or sand puffs  will be seen at some distance by the flounder  and they are more aggressive feeders than I thought so  I think they will "chase " the lure  a bit .




Good luck Mc Tool, would love to hear a happy end to this story!
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Originally posted by MB MB wrote:

Originally posted by Mc Tool Mc Tool wrote:

Originally posted by The Tamure Kid The Tamure Kid wrote:

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I think it's sight fishing if the water is clear and dead still, and blind if not. 
 
 Well  I was thinking that a flounder aint that easy to see when your standing on them  so sighting them at any distance thru water  would be nigh on impossible ..... unless it moved  and then youd be lucky .  I reckon after a  bit of a reccie to find a fishy looking  spot ,  its chuck and chance  from then on . Im thinkin that creating a bit of a trail or sand puffs  will be seen at some distance by the flounder  and they are more aggressive feeders than I thought so  I think they will "chase " the lure  a bit .






Good luck Mc Tool, would love to hear a happy end to this story!


Oh , so your not bothered about it being true😁
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