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    Posted: 24 Feb 2009 at 4:15pm
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I have decided that I am completely useless at blind fishing nymphs. So was wondering, is it worthwhile to blind fish a dry fly over good looking water when there is no obvious 'raises'. At-least with that method it should be more obvious when a fish takes my fly?


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its a good idea i was in the wainui river about a month ago and there was this nice stretch of water but u couldent see init (due to rain) i casted my dry over there and heaps of trout started to come out into the shallows but none took my dry and about a week ago i think it was i was fishing and it was a howling northerly so i couldent see the in the water so i just put on a cicada dry and flicked it out about 2 mins later one took my dry but didnt hook it so went up the river to another spot where i couldent see in due to wind so i casted my dry over there and first cast one took my dry and i got it a nice 2lb brown its suprising that the trout see it but blind dryfishing seems to work pretty good Big%20smile .good luck
 
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Both, I'm no expert but why not simply use a dry fly as an indicator?
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lol fishsnatcher..he has a good point ..always pays to have a dry / nymph dropper combo when fishing blind, especially when you cant see any anything or are fishing faster water.
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Can not be bothered dealing with the tangles which often occur when using a two fly combo.
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when blind fishing dry's I try and think edgy ...... between shallow and deep, fast and slow, light and dark .....you get the picture.  reference the artful science of fly fishing.
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A lot of the top guys explore likely water with a dry fly. Something like a #10-12 Royal Wulff is ideal for the role. Most fish will rise to take a fly off the surface...which is interesting as they generally won't take a nymph a foot above their head. The Dry Fly and dropper is a pretty useful technique provided you're not getting tangles, however there are a couple of disadvantages with it. Firstly the nymph doesn't move as naturally. Secondly You tend to be watching for either dry fly strikes or nymph strikes (ie dry fly dropping). Therefore if you get a strike on the nymph when you're expecting the dry you tend to miss it. Michael also brings up a good point in that when the cicada season is on fish are very willing to travel long distances to take a surface cicada. This is the perfect time to explore likely water...although fish are spooky then a cicada is likely to get as many refusals as takes. Therefore I'd say that your best bet is a nice size 10 or 12 Royal Wulff. And plus...this way you get the delight of watching a trout engulf your fly.
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the nymph dry combo is hard to beat both still and  running water. If the dropper system is causing tangles, try tieng the nymph offf the bend of the dry, if it still tangles try and get a casting leson as you are possibly miss timing or something- but on the big braids where visibility can be tough and the wind strong blind fishing can be the only way to go.
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When its calm I often use the dry/nymph combo, but I want to give the dry fly my complete attention so going to avoid it for the time being.
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Cool. On the big braided rivers I'd recommend a 10-12 clarks cicada, humpy or royal wulf and prospect away- you'll hit something eventually. Down in Canterbury the green bodied humpys are the killer pattern so should do the business up there too.
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Yeah definitely tie it off the bend of the hook, I don't really know why more people don't do that eh.
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Would give it a go once the flows in the rivers drop back down to a typical summer flow.

The Wairau is only a 10 minute drive so might even have a look tomorrow after work.
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Big Stimulators are always good for that work too Militaris.
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Yes stimulator are great to drop a nymph off, especially with rubber legs, they tend to give a bit more stability to the dry fly when fishing riffles so I find they don't get sucked under too easily unless a true strike.  
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I've been blind fishing with a green humpy into the heads of the pools. Works great this time of year on rainbows. I started with a nymph combo but they were just taking the dry so off came the nymph. I dont think it really matters what pattern - just something big and they seem to smach them. Not sure about browns - I dont get to fish to them much.
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I've found my local browns are very willing to rise to a size 10-12 Royal Wulff. Think one of the big stimulators might put them down a little though.
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Unless I am fishing a big dry, Cicada etc, I always fish two flies. I don't seem to get many tangles, and it is far more successful than using one fly. Tying off the bend is the easiest, keeps everything in line. It is easy to concentrate on strikes, just watch the dry. If it dips, strike. If a big head comes out of the water and eats it, strike. Too easyWink

I really like the rubber leg stims too, and Carty's GFF and the like. Will be using them most of the time for the next couple of months.
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yeah the theory is good... but i find that you tend to strike too fast on a dry fly strike or two slow on a nymph. Possibly this is just my inexperience.
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Originally posted by waitakidan waitakidan wrote:

Unless I am fishing a big dry, Cicada etc, I always fish two flies. I don't seem to get many tangles, and it is far more successful than using one fly. Tying off the bend is the easiest, keeps everything in line. It is easy to concentrate on strikes, just watch the dry. If it dips, strike. If a big head comes out of the water and eats it, strike. Too easyWink

I really like the rubber leg stims too, and Carty's GFF and the like. Will be using them most of the time for the next couple of months.
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I thought all or at least most Kiwis fished like that...
It's certainly the way I fish maybe 80% of the time in NZ, dry & dropper - truck and trailer style. Supereffective and great fun! Tongue
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