I know it has been said before, or even putting a small levy on fishing tackle/bait and sending that to the NZRFC

Hiya Naki... how's the jigging going? :-)

A small levy on tackle sales etc would not likely work... shop keepers and tackle wholesalers etc would resist this I am sure, it is bad enough having to do the bloody GST, let alone working out the levy on fishing tackles, sending in the returns etc etc etc.

By far the easiest idea is the licence, in my opinion anyhow. Need it be more than $25 ea ? Well, I do not know. In Aussie they have introduced such licences, they are only around this amount, and by doing so, the rec fishing people have been able to use these funds to organise themselves, buy out commercial fishermen in most estuaries etc, to get rid of the inshore/estuary netting etc, so that now these fisheries are rebounding hugely... I hate to say it, but the aussies have got it together on their side of the ditch in that respect at least. We could do the same here I am sure.

 

As i said before the biggest hurdle is that everyone knows that "the maori" will not agree under general principles, and claim exemption due to waitangi and all that crap... and if they do not need a licence, then why the hell should non-maori??!! It is a fair point, and I agree with that totally as well, BUT I also think the time for getting sniffy about such matters is passing quickly, and that the need for funding is such that Maori can be let off from having a licence just to get the licencing system in place for a start. Then if they want to free-load, stuff them, they can, but if they wish to contribute to the general cause, well good on them, the can still buy a licence just like the rest of us. I bet a lot of them would anyhow, only the pikers and activists would continue to refuse. It is here that the addition bonus of making every licence a ticket in a decent lottery would be a big draw.

 

Well anyhow, thems is my thoughts.

Cheers all,

Stu.

 

Having said that, I do believe there should be some type of compulsory boating education cause there are a hell of a lot of idiots on the water, and its not a place that gives too many second chances.  Just my two cents.  Very good topic this.  Dan

 

Both Maori and Non-Maori are catching the same fish... Maori will suffer along with everyone else if the fish stocks continue to diminish... Why would Maori not want to support an idea that will ensure fish for them to catch in the future?

 

We're 1 Nation ffs

 

 

What about form an incorporated society which accepts membership from individuals, businesses or through fishing/boating clubs. Funds to be used for fighting for our rights on issues which would be stipulated, such as fishing rights and sustainability while incorporating a vessel registration service and providing a subsidised Recreational safe boating program for members. I'm sure Govt agencies and businesses would contribute to that portion of the service.

Are there 15 people out there who would be interested in getting together to discuss ideas to get it going? If so, get back to me.

(1) In setting or varying any total allowable commercial catch for any quota management stock, the Minister shall have regard to the total allowable catch for that stock and shall allow for�                                                                                          

                                                                                                                        

                                                                                                                (a) The following non-commercial fishing interests in that stock, namely-                                                                   

            (i) Maori customary non-commercial fishing interests; and                  

            (ii) Recreational interests; and

(b) All other mortality to that stock caused by fishing.

 

(2) Before setting or varying a total allowable commercial catch for any quota management stock, the Minister shall consult such persons and organisations as the Minister considers are representative of those classes of persons having an interest in this section, including Maori, environmental, commercial, and recreational interests.

 

(3) After setting or varying any total allowable commercial catch under section 20 of this Act, the Minister shall, as soon as practicable, give to the parties consulted under subsection 2 of this section reasons in writing for his or her decision.

 

(4) When allowing for Maori customary non-commercial interests under subsection 1, the Minister must take into account�

 

(a) Any mataitai reserve in the relevant quota management area that is declared by the Minister by notice in the Gazette under regulations made for the purpose under section 186:

 (b) Any area closure or any fishing method restriction or prohibition in the relevant quota management area that is imposed by the Minister by notice in the Gazette made under section 186A.]

 

(5) When allowing for recreational interests under subsection 1 of this section, the Minister shall take into account any regulations that prohibit or restrict fishing in any area for which regulations have been made following a recommendation made by the Minister under section 311 of this Act.

 

I've just added up by hand the Yes and No column in the DoC document "Aotea Gt Barrier-summary of submissions" (summary-HA), yes all 101 pages of the 202 page document with that info.

My results are 454 Yes, 1380 No, 48 Unsure.

This comes to a Total of 1882 vs the document count of 1863, well I did do it by hand!!

 

What further useful comment could I possibly make?

It's scandal-Gate!

(and I'm a poet I just dont know it))

 

What gives. What does it TAKE to expose an outright lie in this country?