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    Posted: 16 Dec 2009 at 3:43pm
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i will do another of lures with treble hooks an doubles plus one on lengths of trace with doubles...
anything else your not sure on let me know i will ask Weighmaster to clarify before posting so its correct first.... 
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Would you be prepared to allow me to post these on my website. Acknowlegeing your work of course.
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nah mate sorry im committed to the Fishing website forum an it wouldn't be appropriate to have them else were at the moment.....

love your lures and site though looking pretty impressive well done...
keep up the good work an hope it all turns out A OK for you...
  
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nice lethal well done...
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Awesome set

can you help and ask Weighmaster if the lures below are legal and if not why





The top one is a Mann's Giganticus 50 + and as there design allows for a setup as I have made it I think it will be ok

http://www.mannsbait.com/index.asp

If you go down in there site it shows the manufactures specs to making that rig


As for the others 2 they are River2sea, and I am not sure.

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Hard to see from the angle but the bottom one sort of looks like its rigged to run backwards as you have it rigged.
Am I missing something? 


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bottom one looks as tho the hook should be on the other end bro ?
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Originally posted by Boulder Boulder wrote:

Hard to see from the angle but the bottom one sort of looks like its rigged to run backwards as you have it rigged.
Am I missing something? 


No you missed nothing great spotting, it is a skitter popper and it has a shackle on it so it can be used eather way and I am yet to run and test it 
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im not to sure about that top lure wanabe it has no skirt and yet you have a double hook set-up which is connected to each other....
will be interesting how that one works out, i would say no, but then i never did the course which Paul has be through so i will leave it up to him.....
as for rigging plugs from the tow point, that one is also interesting these are certainly the type of stuff that needs tp be thrashed out on here so everyone gets a clearer understanding of the rules...
rather than have a fish disqualified at the weigh station...
thanks wanabe....


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this double hook rig attached to each other like in a trolling lure... is going to be interesting....



with this one and the ball bearing swivels plus split rings with single hooks i personaly think your wasting your time it wont swim anyway but then its your call.. lets see if its legal first...
 


ok on closer inspection which didnt show from you photo wanabe the bottom plug has a 2 hook single system which you attached both on the same split ring right....
that one will also be rather interesting as well which is all good mate...
these should be cleared up an sorted long before you catch a fish if your wanting to weight it in....




give it your best shot Paul will be interesting how you call them...
im holding off now finishing the IGFA plugs and rigs till the call has been made....








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check out the  Mann's web site and when reading the IGFA  section 2 hooks and lures, ....(specifically designed for this use)  ????   thanks 
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rules H Hooks and lures



2. Gang hooks are permitted when attached to plugs and other
artificial lures that are specifically designed for this use. Gang hooks must
be free swinging and shall be limited to a maximum of three hooks (single,
double, or treble, or a combination of any three). Baits may not be
used with gang hooks. A photograph or sketch of the plug or lure must be
submitted with record applications.

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i really cant comment mate they may run different rules to us so its very wise to wait an see what weightmaster has to say....

gang hooks are rigged one through the eye of the other not side by side....
from what i understand you may have a treble a single and a double one only on each location if there are three attachments for hooks per plug...

anyway i could still be wrong the way i read it...
let Paul sort it out that way we are 100% correct for fishing NZ waters....




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Cheers look forward to a reply thanks for your comments

PS have you been out over the Manukau
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hopefully will get out over the bar after Xmas even if its just to trial a few set-ups an catch a few Alberts....
you keen on going send me a PM if you are...
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wanabe..... the bottom lure is ILLEGAL, "baker's rig" ie 2 hooks back to back held with ties,no hard body lure comes out with that. If you put a set of standard double hooks on it would be ok.
BTW  Nomad have been running a hook of the front of lures, mainly poppers though for a while and for certain fish species that attack a bait fish from the front it seems to work well for them.(best using 400lb kevlar cord to the hook though)Wink
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i am investigating the bottom set up now and am in correspondence with IGFA shortly as per the yop two lures they are legal
, the top swimming plug may need better alligning to get it to swim good, the centre one with the hooks on swivells will need a rubber band to hold the hook point down whilst trolling to stop the point trying to run in the up possition putting the plug out of balance.
 
the bottom rig i'm seeking advice on.
 
great art work there Sir Lethal
 
 

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Thanks is it legal, to use a weight to a hook, to weight keel it, to keep it point up. thanks 
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