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Well our 115 Yammy SWS 2010 engine is still using around 1L per km. Going in for a service in a week. Hopefully they find something as i've tried 5 props now and nothing seems to change. 

Was out on my mates 6.5m Mcclay a few days ago, and he gets better economy with a 1999 Yammy 150hp 2 Stroke - go figure
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I did a bit of reallly close fuel use watching yesterday ...
Yamaha 225 4.2litre on a 635 Bucanneer.
I can regularly get 1.6km per litre all the way from 20 knots (22lph) up to almost 30 knots (34lph).
In perfect trim (2 up with a 150 litres of gas) I even manged to get 1.8km/l with careful trim and a very small chop.
Not bad for a 4.2 litre engine!
 
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I have a 97 stabi 550 fitted with a 2007 90hp Evinrude Etec. i have kept a log of the fuel used over 175 hours.

My old engine a v4 90 evinrude would swallow 20 litres per hours, the new engine averages 8.5 litres per hour, however I would add that i dont very often go above 4000 rpm.

I dont do harbour fishing always out to sea, mayor, motiti, shoals etc even been to white ( out of whakatane) also i do trolling when ever possible, however this figure includes water sking nad biscuiting.

Went out last week to the shoals then on to Motiti doing some trolling and back to sulphur, looking at the fuel guage I reckon i used 30 lites with a running time of  7 hours.
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I'm doing 21/22 MPH at 3500 RPM......Still need to see exactly what my WOT speed is......need to wait for some nice flat water. I have been nearly there and guessing i can get to over 40 MPH. I have only had a few short bursts near WOT.
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I am confused, all this talk very impressive sounding fuel efficiencies. If this thread is to be of real benefit do we need to see how different motors given the overall picture, ie total distance covered, POB etc. How else can one make a fair and resonable comparison between rigs, motors etc.
Most of us have a chartplotter which gives us the distance covered, and the fuel usage can be got from the fuel computer or when you fill up.
My rig is a 5.5 surtees with a 90 Yammy 2 stroke. With 2 POB we covered 112.1km, with a fuel usage of 92 litres in fair weather conditions. Total run time approx 8 hours, with the run out and back, and and the balance at trolling speed. I make the economy at 1.22 km per litre.
 
 
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Here is a good comparison for you yknot...
 
Boat 5.5 Surtees with a Suzuki DF90. Last trip was 2 POB, we covered 86km with fuel usage of 36ltrs. Approx 2.4km per litre.  Day included some trolling, jigging, and a few deep drops. Sea conditions good.
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Can not find any one witha similar motor to compare.
6.6 mtr White pointer always fully loaded with 200 ltrs fuel 4 reasonably large guys 2 large chilly bins gear etc. last two trips similar fuel usage and sea state 1-1.5 mtrs reasonably rough.
Am getting 1.53 km per litre or .82 nm/l from a 2002 150 merc opti does this seem ok/normal
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Forgot to mention no trolling in the above just motoring to and from spots around 4100 rpm @ 41 - 45 km/h  last time out 69 km for 45.75 litres
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i wouldve thought about 25-30litres p/h for that motor. so considering its pushing a LOT of weight in this instance, your numbers look very reasonable.
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2009  WXR 529 Stabicraft
2009 90 hp Honda four stroke
2 POB with canopy up
loaded with approx 100 kgs of crap, jigging, popping and soft baiting 

Shot up to Channel Island from Coromandel in 5-10 knot winds with gusts from the east about 14knots, big east swell in the channel

Traveled 88.1Km and used 31.4 litres of Fuel, Cruising at 38-40KMh (4000-4250rpm) using 12.9 Ltr per Hour

so that works out to 2.8km per litreBig smile



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225 Honda with 4 p.o.b. fully loaded with 200 litres on board.
Calm conditions. Trip consisted on 3 hours trolling, 2 hours kingy jigging without turning engine off. 2 hours of cruising at 4300 rpm.
78 nautical miles = 144 kms for 108 litre fuel used = 1.33 kms per litre. (i,m happy with that Smile)
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Originally posted by yknot yknot wrote:

I am confused, all this talk very impressive sounding fuel efficiencies. If this thread is to be of real benefit do we need to see how different motors given the overall picture, ie total distance covered, POB etc. How else can one make a fair and resonable comparison between rigs, motors etc.
Most of us have a chartplotter which gives us the distance covered, and the fuel usage can be got from the fuel computer or when you fill up.
My rig is a 5.5 surtees with a 90 Yammy 2 stroke. With 2 POB we covered 112.1km, with a fuel usage of 92 litres in fair weather conditions. Total run time approx 8 hours, with the run out and back, and and the balance at trolling speed. I make the economy at 1.22 km per litre.
 
 
  now you are making it confusing, giving one average fuel use over 8 hours of running at an average of 14 km/h!
IMHO you need three numbers, fuel burn at cruise speed (economy), trolling speed burn (also for prospecting, and checking out spots), and fuel burn at a 10 knot crawl in shytey conditions (so you know what you will burn getting home if it all turns to custard)
 
My 'economy cruise' speed range (225 latest 4.2l model Yammie on Bucanneer 635) is quite wide, with 18-25 knots giving the same return of 1.6km/litre, but at 12-15 knots through slop it drops to below 1.0km/litre, and then climbs back to 1.8km/l at 5-6 knots pottering around looking at new fishing spots.
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LOLLOL Tip'' it only matters that you have enough in the tank to get back Home..
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Fyran 5.3
2010 Honda 90 4 stroke
1 POB and 2 full tanks (46L)  fishing gear and 9 snaps for the ride home and flat calm
Travelled 15.5nm and used 9.5L of fuel
Cruising at around 17.5nm at 3500 revs.
I worked it out at around 1.6nm a litre, does that sound right?

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yup - the hondas and suzuki 90s seem to be doing about 0.6-0.7l/nm
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OK. Note previously I have been using nautical miles - but now changed to kilometres - I think its time nautical caught up with metrics!

Date:22/3/13
Boat: Frewza F14 - aluminium
Size: 4.1m
Weight: approx. 470kg incl motor/ fuel, I person, gear
Engine: Honda 50hp 4 str
Prop diameter and pitch: don't know
Weather conditions: about 10 knots wind, low swell - average speed about 28km/h
general usage : bottom fishing
Hours on water: not sure
Distance travelled: 29.8km by gps
Fuel used: 6.2L
Fuel rate : 4.8 km/L
Very economical boating - fuel cost just $14!!!
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Originally posted by letsgetem letsgetem wrote:

OK. Note previously I have been using nautical miles - but now changed to kilometres - I think its time nautical caught up with metrics!

Date:22/3/13
Boat: Frewza F14 - aluminium
Size: 4.1m
Weight: approx. 470kg incl motor/ fuel, I person, gear
Engine: Honda 50hp 4 str
Prop diameter and pitch: don't know
Weather conditions: about 10 knots wind, low swell - average speed about 28km/h
general usage : bottom fishing
Hours on water: not sure
Distance travelled: 29.8km by gps
Fuel used: 6.2L
Fuel rate : 4.8 km/L
Very economical boating - fuel cost just $9!!!

Where do you buy your fuel, and can I get some too??LOLLOL
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Ooops. I would too - I used the price of diesel. I have corrected it to $14.
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For some of us with older less technologically advanced rigs is there any way to hire a fuel flow meter for a day or weekend to get some accurate figures together?  I would like to utilize the most efficient cruising and trolling RPM's and testing trolling efficiency out of a tote tank doesn't seem the most efficient means . I do realize that it's probably time for an upgraded outboard but finances inhibit that at the moment and I would like to get the most out of her while I can.
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Originally posted by yknot yknot wrote:

I am confused, all this talk very impressive sounding fuel efficiencies. If this thread is to be of real benefit do we need to see how different motors given the overall picture, ie total distance covered, POB etc. How else can one make a fair and resonable comparison between rigs, motors etc.
Most of us have a chartplotter which gives us the distance covered, and the fuel usage can be got from the fuel computer or when you fill up.
My rig is a 5.5 surtees with a 90 Yammy 2 stroke. With 2 POB we covered 112.1km, with a fuel usage of 92 litres in fair weather conditions. Total run time approx 8 hours, with the run out and back, and and the balance at trolling speed. I make the economy at 1.22 km per litre.
 
 
 
Whilst these boats do provide a good ride due to the deep v hull they are very thirsty in general - that is less than 1 mile per litre.
In a similar sized alloy boat Scorpion 5.35 5mm hull with moderate v and a gull wing hull I get 1.6 miles per litre on a 2 stroke merc 90. This must be a consideration these days with the ever increasing cost of gas.
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