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    Posted: 07 Feb 2012 at 1:35pm
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Is it misleading to suggets that Canyon reels are manufactured in the United States, when it now seems that they are manufactured by an OEM manufacturer in China, its being hotly debated here...

And being marketed as made in the states here...

http://www.canyonreels.co.nz/, with the marketing stating...

Where performance meets the water

Each Canyon Reel is built for performance and years of dependable use. Made in the USA, these top quality reels are designed with the help of today’s best fisherman resulting in reels that offer unheard of strength and durability.



I have no issue with where they are made and how good they may or may not be, but is it right to state they are made in the states when they dont appear to be???


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Hells bells, canyon is copping a good hiding on 360 alright. Really interesting what Allan Hawk had to say about the internals.
 
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But then again what isn't made in China these days...even the old stalwarts like Penn and Fin-Nor are made in China now...
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Shimano are the same though, malaysia, singapore, japan
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Originally posted by Blue Asparagus Blue Asparagus wrote:

Shimano are the same though, malaysia, singapore, japan
Japanese manufacturing is generally top quality, China ... hmm, time will tell I guess.
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Originally posted by Structfab Structfab wrote:

Originally posted by Blue Asparagus Blue Asparagus wrote:

Shimano are the same though, malaysia, singapore, japan
Japanese manufacturing is generally top quality, China ... hmm, time will tell I guess.
 
The Japs also use Chinese manufacturers and Taiwan and Thailand and...Cry
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I'm not a lawyer, but I am pretty certain that the canyon NZ web site is breaking the law (or would be if they were actually selling them).  It seems fairly clear that these reels are not made in the USA (slightly questionable if they are assembled in the USA), and the web site states they are.  That is misrepresenting the product.  I predict a slight change will be made to whe web site before they start selling them.
 
I completely understand the flack they are getting as well.  If they had been more honest about the product no one would have cared where it was made.  It's trying to add value to the product and charge more for it.  that's a bit underhand.
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Hi Titahi
 
I'm the person importing the Canyon Reels.
 
Canyon reels comply to American law and do not set out to mislead any one.
 
All there reels are assembled in NJ America using parts from the US and Asia. (very similar process to other brands we already have here)
 
I have sourced all my marketing material from the owner of Canyon himself. And I don't believe I am mis leading anyone on here at all. Nor am I breaking the Law.
 
Thank you for linking the epic report to this, because as you will see from that report the reels are more than capable of handling good sized fish.
 
I believe what makes a good company is the people behind the product, the performance of the products and the back up service after the purchase. So far Canyon reels have performed well in these areas.
 
I'm not to concerned about the comments of a few red necks on blogs, at the end of the day the product will speak for its self.
 
If you want more info please PM me 
 
 
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Have you been to NJ and seen where they are assembled???
 
I can change "made" to "assembled" if you prefer
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This is an interesting read .

http://jignpopforum.com/topic/408-warning-canyon-spinning-djr-6500/page__pid__2434#entry2434
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Jimmy, I don't care where my fishing tackle is made as long as it is up to standard.  You clearly state these reels are made in the USA on your web site.  Despite your claims that is not legal advertising if they are not actually made there (made is very different from assembled).  There is no regulation that you have to state country of manufacture on your web site, but if you do state it what you say must be true.
 
If, as you say, these are quality reels -and I have no reason to doubt that they are- then they will sell on their own merrit.  I don't think many of us can afford to be choosy about where our kit comes from these days, as most of the top manufacturers make stuff all over the world anyway.
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Keyword being "assembled"

The same reels are sold under at least 7 brands, and in fact if you ordered 100 from China they would make them under your own brand.

There's 2 different people on trademe selling the "unbranded" version for less than $200 in the Stella crushing spin version.

I don't think it's right to claim made is the USA when in fact it's the same as the Chinese reel that's had the handle bolted on by a Mexican.

Jimmy - I think you may find that knowing a product is made in china and "assembled" in the US is in clear breach of more than 1 nz law. Even the US website doesn't claim they are made there. Personally I would change it not to make someone from here happy but to prevent the commerce commission righting a letter

Kiwi casters post sums them up with a fairly unbiased review by Alan hawk



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And while the Epic pics may show they can stop a reasonable fish, that was only a days fishing. Real test would be seeing them on that boat for 6 months and see if they are still stopping fish like the Stella's and jigging masters
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Dont know if this makes any difference but - if you were to say manufacture a dietary supplement in NZ (eg Vitamin C, B1 and magnesium) and the raw materials were sourced from China, you can still legally label it 'made in NZ'......
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Thanks for your advice winzurf, I've been using them for 7 months with out issue and I do a lot of fishing
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hey Jimbo if you have a couple of the big spinning reels send them my way mate, would love to try them out, not very happy with Thompson Walker so they can generally stick there finnors where the sun dont shine at this stage.
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yep web site is definatly misleading , i dont think they have to be embarassed by having there parts made in china i mean be realistic where else would you get em made these days but doesnt mean its craap . better to be straight up from the getgo last thing you want is google search turning up negative comments . jm is made in china yet i find there products highly desirable ,a few 30 kg + kiwi kings will be the one and only test that i would care  about . i would volunteer to do this at the ranfurlys or kings , i would not charge for this service .Big smile
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one of our bussiness is importing dresses from China.
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have just wasted half an hour reading all the overseas forums about canyon/m&w/powerjig/etc/etc reels its obvious they are all the same reel made in the same factory no surprises there .what i noticed was a complete lack of people actually using them everyone is more focused on the misleading statements about there origin it has overshadowed wether or not they actually work .if the price is right people will buy em they will get a good work out in N Z and the results will be posted for all to see im sure . good on jimmy nail for taking a punt and putting his name and face behind a new brand. 
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Well said Mike. Long term performance is the proof of any product and the rest of it is a distraction.
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