Questions on Bayliner Trophy 2052
Printed From: The Fishing Website
Category: General Forums
Forum Name: The Boat Shed
Forum Description: Discuss all things boating.
URL: https://www.fishing.net.nz/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=69454
Printed Date: 23 Jun 2026 at 10:22pm
Topic: Questions on Bayliner Trophy 2052
Posted By: loryda
Subject: Questions on Bayliner Trophy 2052
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2011 at 2:48pm
|
Hey Guys
A 'friend' of mine is looking at purchasing a new boat as
Anyone owned one?
Anything you hated? / Would Change?
Anything
For the same coin is there something else you would get? Why?
Any comments or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
Just getting an idea of whats out there at this stage really and wanting some experianced thoughts..
Looking at these at the moment:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=400311855 - http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=400311855
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=394535234 - http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=394535234
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=401851867 - http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=401851867
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=398522439 - http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=398522439
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=400012555 - http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=400012555
Cheers Alex. ------------- "We all pay for life with death, so everything in between should be free." -Bill Hicks |
Replies:
Posted By: JB
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2011 at 4:01pm
|
Hi, I've got a 1998 trophy 2002wa with 2007 verado on it and regularly log on to the bayliner owners club and talk to other trophy owners. If you have any specific questions about these models then sing out. I would point out I'm not an expert about engines so might let others comment specifically about motors. For your interest the trophys changed over to a new shape in around late 1999 or 2000. The newer ones have slightly higher back end which differentates the shape difference, the price is slightly higher on these ones and I think build quality from what I hear is slightly better as well. Overall a good around boats but a couple of things to check on them (like most boats). Older versons can have water get into the transom area in the ply in the transom core. They can be check to see if it has happened and can be fixed if needed. Just one of those things you need to check. The models ending in 50 or 52 (e.g 2052 or 2051) are the inboard models, whilst the models ending in 02 (e.g.1902, 2002 etc) are the outboard ones. Generally a heavier boat and need a bit more to tow than any ali boat (but most 6m+ glass ones are anyway). They can handle to see well but the ones 2002/2052 and longer need tabs in my opinon. For me the inboard on the smaller ones can take up a lot of fishing space but not so bad as you get bigger. For me due to the weight factor they need a slightly more hp so i'd be looking at the higher end of the recommended hp range. In our one we can comfortably overnight in it (its actually bigger in the cabin than looking from the outside), plus we have a hard targa top with clears which makes the boat feel alot bigger if overnighting. Overall a good boat and good sea keeping ability. Fire way with any specific questions on each model. The thing to remember the trophies and sea rays etc are high production boats so although relatively good they are not the higher class spec finish as say a rayglass, but this means they are however more affordable. regards JB |
Posted By: CEEBEE
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2011 at 4:07pm
|
I had a mate buy a brand new one with the inboard and I went on many fishing trips with him, a heavy to tow boat, VERY heavy on petrol, needed trim tabs as mentioned above. Soft riding and my Marine surveyor mate says they can have osmosis issues and the transom rot also mentioned. I think enough said. ------------- I STARTED THE DAY WITH NO FISH AND I STILL HAVE PLENTY LEFT |
Posted By: JB
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2011 at 4:16pm
|
Agree the inboard might be very heavy on gas but my outboard verado is relatively normal on its fuel burn for size etc. I haven't heard of osmosis in them and the transom thing can be checked out in older models. The thing you need to look at apart from the age of the boat is the age of the motor - i'd be asking specific questions in the outboard clinic about each models motor, this is likely going to be the most expensive thing to fix if it breaks (for example if you need to get the transom done its only about $3K max, not the real money like a stuffed motor) On the heavy to tow, yes but isn't most 6m+ glass boats?? regards |
Posted By: loryda
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2011 at 4:19pm
|
Hi JB
Interesting reading, is the model coding for outboard vs inboard only for the newer models or does this extend back in the years as well, just ask as have seen alot of 2052 models sporting outboards and from first look dont appear to be conversions.. (first trademe link is one of them)
Wouldnt want to go inboard as fishing room is paramount so will try sticking to an outboard.
Hadent heard about the transoms going soft so will have to remember to keep an eye on that front, have heard about some people having water creep in to the cabin however and causing issues with rot but cant really see how myself, any ideas on this?
Also curious how much she weighs, will be getting a suitable towwagon so not really much of an issue but abit of a consideration if im looking to haul her North every summer.
Re finish im not too fussy, just wanting something to go fishing on again, errr i mean, my mate.. Cheers for the info! Alex. ------------- "We all pay for life with death, so everything in between should be free." -Bill Hicks |
Posted By: loryda
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2011 at 4:23pm
|
CEEBEE - Cheers, i would imagine the inboard was the heaviest bit and wanting to steer away from that end hopefully will go some way to reducing that issue, at the end of the day im not too worried about towing, more so about gas and would look to retrofit a 4 stroke to the back end one day to compensate with this / going wide trolling etc.
Interesing regarding the osmosis, hadent heard this before but will keep my ears out and make sure take adequate inspections.
Best mates are all boatbuilders so hopefully as you say JB the most expensive things i will need to do will be around the motor side of things, would want as new as possible and if can Yamaha (brand junkie - i know, i know) but will come down to the boat in question come buy time i guess..
Cheers
Alex. ------------- "We all pay for life with death, so everything in between should be free." -Bill Hicks |
Posted By: [email protected]
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2011 at 5:40pm
|
I had the larger 2352 which was the 5.0l inboard option . did over 500hrs in her and never had an issue. Great sea keeing abilities. As economic as my old 200hp 2 stroke Merc , towed real well with the Patrol and caught a heap of fish out of her. In my mind great boats and never had issues with the engine or leg. All about regular maintenance at the end of the day. ------------- http://www.blackbillsportfishing.co.nz/" rel="nofollow"> 
|
Posted By: pland
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2011 at 7:14pm
|
Hi Alex
I have had a 2002 Trophy for several years now so a bit biassed - my understanding is that the 2002 is outboard & 2052 is inboard so interesting to see the 52 with outboard on tm.
When we bought the Trophy the brief was fibreglass (cos it looks nicer for the boss) , 6m+ , capstan to save the bosses arms , some weather protection as we fish all year , ability to overnight if need be.
I also wanted reasonably new trailer as these are pricey on a big boat and decent size outboard on the back (not too old). Budget was <$40k.
In terms of meeting the brief and budget - we are more than happy with what we got 200HP Yammie 2000 , 2003 Tandem Trailer & 1993 Boat.
It came with trimtabs which are definitely needed as it is quite high.
A few things to note with Trophys - many of them came out with small outboards which is not a great idea for a boat approaching 2ton when laden, also standard US trailers were 'skid' type and not braked. The fish bins fill with rainwater when the boat is standing - I fitted bungs in these that drain into the bilge which works great.
I added a Navman Fuel flow meter (they have 300litre underfloor tank so have a good range).I typically cruise at 29l/hr which I think is not too bad for a decent size boat and motor.
Haven't heard the transom issues as mentioned above.
Tow it with a Hyundai Terracan wagon.
I brought it back to Auckland last week as am considering selling it to fund a new venture - will PM you my details if you want to have a look ...haven't listed it yet on TM
Paul
------------- pland |
Posted By: loryda
Date Posted: 29 Aug 2011 at 7:39pm
|
Lance - Was that the Alpha or Bravo leg on yours? Father had the Bravo leg on an American Formula and had no issues with it but when he got a Sea Ray with an Alpha leg the boat spent more time in the garage than the water, seem to remember Ray Bryant talking about the issues with the older legs but was a kid at the time so the memory is a little fuzzy.. They definatly look the fish catching biz! Paul - Cheers for the info, gold mine! Your brief is basically the same as mine, perhaps with a slightly smaller budget. Interesting to note that virtually all the Trophys around that size i have seen appear to have been repowered, what size donk did they come with factory do you know? Im wondering what other differences between 2052 and 2002 were or if it were just a outboard/inboard thing and they are mis-labled on TradeMe? But then here is another.. http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/boats-marine/motorboats/2052/auction-402174721.htm - http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/boats-marine/motorboats/2052/auction-402174721.htm From what ive been seeing the only inboard 2052's i can find are newer (2000 onwards) but you or someone else might be able to shed some light on that.. Just curious at 29lph what speed are you cruising at? And how stable are they at rest? To be honest im doing abit of info mining here with a vision of my future so am not ready to buy just yet, would love to take a good nosey around one at some stage though. Cheers Alex. ------------- "We all pay for life with death, so everything in between should be free." -Bill Hicks |
Posted By: pland
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2011 at 1:37pm
|
Alex
Most seemed to come out with Force outboards ~ 120Hp.
Not sure what cruising speed is - will check next time I'm out.
Stability at rest is excellent
Paul ------------- pland |
Posted By: Blue Asparagus
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2011 at 1:58pm
|
I had the 2352, had a 120hp inboard petrol motor raised a lot of fish, nice boat until I pulled the carpets up, never again I don't think will I own another. ------------- Ultimate GAME Fishing Adventures. Northland |
Posted By: loryda
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2011 at 2:02pm
|
Paul - Cheers for the info, much appreciated!
BA - Rot, build quality or...?
What would your suggestion be for simular sort of dollahs and desires?
Cheers again Alex. ------------- "We all pay for life with death, so everything in between should be free." -Bill Hicks |
Posted By: Blue Asparagus
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2011 at 3:07pm
|
Dunno what I would buy Alex. it was general build, the biggest problem as I see it is they are not what one would call designed for our water conditions. The floor was sat into the hull and then glassed over with chop strand, no strength as the hull twists etc, we took all the front bunks out and lifted the floor and set it down on a bad of glass, we then used double bias and glassed the top down onto the hull. there was no anchor well which became a pain so we fitted one. As i say mate thats just my experience, my brother brought the 2852 and added 2m to it and fitted a diesel and completely refit the the interior and again reinforced the floors etc ------------- Ultimate GAME Fishing Adventures. Northland |
Posted By: riga
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2011 at 6:31pm
|
Only thing that I can add is with all walk arounds, if you are out in rough conditions, any wave that comes over the bow ends up in the cockpit as the walkaround funnels the water in there as opposed to a conventional boat were the water is deflected off to the side.
Apart from that walkarounds are great.
|
Posted By: Moki Marko
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2011 at 6:52pm
|
Bayliners are built to a price - don't think there is anything really wrong with them - but they don't seem to age well, compared to a well made US boat like say a Bertram. Only other comment is that on regular outings together a 30 year old 5.7m Seanymph Hustler outperformed a BL Trophy hardtop in every regard - apart from sex appeal up the driveway. |
Posted By: JB
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2011 at 10:06pm
The scuppers on them normally fix most of the normal flow. Only problem with the trophys prior to 2000 where they needed the perko scuppers replaced with radub ones (about $250 total) to stop backwash up scuppers and into the fish bins. Most of the small issues with these boats have a fix. MM is correct, they are build to a budget but get a well looked after one and its not bad for the budget. Personally from whta I hear if one has a force outboard on, plan on replacing the outboard before going offshore. |
riga wrote:Posted By: Panga
Date Posted: 30 Aug 2011 at 10:29pm
|
There was a mislabled 2052 on TM it was actually a 2002 with a 200efi merc on it, wasnt a bad boat, but hadnt been maitaned to the standard I like to see, also had a bunked trailer, which is useless in NZ conditions unless you are launching off mint ramps all the time.
Bayliners are built to a price, but are quite good boats.
I find the sides are too low on the 2002 and 2052, being as this was designed as an inshore fisher and not a blue water boat. the cockpit sides hit me on the knee, also these smaller trophys have a moderate hull V, all of these issues are rectified if you look at their larger siblings.
The alpha leg is OK as long as you dont try to over power it and you are a demon on servicing, these hulls work well with a 150hp outboard. ------------- I ONLY FISH HANDMADE KOJAK CUSTOM RODS. |
Posted By: loryda
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2011 at 8:18am
|
Some awesome info coming out here, about to leave for work but will address some of the comments raised more specificaly later on. Cheers heaps! Alex. ------------- "We all pay for life with death, so everything in between should be free." -Bill Hicks |
Posted By: green guy
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2011 at 10:27am
|
Get a Centre console auw or get andys v198 that boat is sick running 200hp merc same as ball bags motor ------------- http://www.facebook.com/hauraki.hillbillys |
Posted By: loryda
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2011 at 11:13am
Mitch - Ballallals keeps pointing me towards that V198 but IMO its overpriced.. If they knocked 6k off it i would go get it tomorrow. 
Would love a CC for softbait fishing but want to stay dry and warm in ****ty weather, love fishing in the rain and Winter and will take days off work to do so (seriously miss mid week fishing, best times of my life i had with my little Gullwing and no job).
Plus want something with a cabin to throw the missus into when she starts complaining about the sun, or the rain, or the wind, or the.... (not that i imagine she will come out too often)
The Trophy seems to tick those boxes for me. And if i had the pingers i would buy myself a Tournament in a heartbeat.
It comes down to compromise in the end though and staying dry and warm is more important than walkaround ability, im still young and can clamber over things if need be. BF hardtop might be a go.. really still assessing options but at this point in time the Trophy is winning the race.
Again, if anyone has any other suggestions i would greatly appreciate all thoughts!
Chuur
Alex. ------------- "We all pay for life with death, so everything in between should be free." -Bill Hicks |
Posted By: loryda
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2011 at 11:38am
|
BA - Interesting, your brothers version sounds the bizzo! Any pics? Would love to get a diesel in anything i owned but think its outside the budget at this stage. Was there any cracking or signs of failure before you did the job or was it just preventative?
Riga - V good point but imagine as KB says decent scuppers would solve this issue?
Moki - Yeah i hear you on that one, been out on a hustler and it seemed the goods, just dont like the bowrider type thing and unfortunatly as far as the middah is concerned i need a cabin to keep her pretty. Did like the look of this though... http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/boats-marine/motorboats/auction-398781419.htm - http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/boats-marine/motorboats/auction-398781419.htm Also think they are pretty sexy myself!
JB - Thats also what i had heard, not a big issue to resolve though. Will be keeping away from anything with a Force on it unless its at a price i can repower within budget. Maintenance is the thing i keep hearing, if they have been looked after then they are typically a good boat although not as rough and tough as i would like.
Panga - I think this is one of the ones in my list, mislabled 2052. Will try stay away from skid style trailors as wil want to launch all over the place and now im looking at places up BOI ways (Russell / Okiato side) for the old lady, from what i saw the ramps there werent all that flash. Interesting comment around the sides being low and hitting you in the knee! That sounds like sfa freeboard on them? You a basketball player or something? Will have to get on board one and take a good look soon i think! Would love a larger model but think the budget will be my biggest constraint. Funnily enough the Formula had the Bravo leg with a tinkered with 5.7L V8 and never an issue, sh*t that boat flew!! The SeaRay on the other hand with the Alpha leg and V6 was an a*s of a thing.
Cheers for all the comments guys, again if anyone has any suggestions on simular sort of boats, or something different then let me know, am looking at all options and love to hear your experiances!
Alex.
------------- "We all pay for life with death, so everything in between should be free." -Bill Hicks |
Posted By: green guy
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2011 at 11:59am
|
1st mistake cuzz Never worry about what the midi thinks about the boat that way she don't have to come out with ya And ya don't get the I wanna go home it's cold I'm board is there e channel on here Hahaha ------------- http://www.facebook.com/hauraki.hillbillys |
Posted By: loryda
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2011 at 1:23pm
|
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/boats-marine/motorboats/auction-400584104.htm - http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/boats-marine/motorboats/auction-400584104.htm
Hrmmm, this looks pretty good.. anyone have any thoughts on these? ------------- "We all pay for life with death, so everything in between should be free." -Bill Hicks |
Posted By: green guy
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2011 at 2:05pm
|
Honestly dude chat to jarad about andys boat it is fully kitted out and is a Haines V198 tuff boats and love the ruff stuff ------------- http://www.facebook.com/hauraki.hillbillys |
Posted By: YellowV198
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2011 at 4:20pm
|
I have to say V198's kick arse absolutely love ours and they take absolutely no bull****! I have had some rough days coming hm and see laps it up but trim tabs are a must. If you lover the hustler hull but want a cabin you need to find one of these..... http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/boats-marine/motorboats/auction-319691081.htm hustler hull with a cabin and its got a 96 150 on it so it should go alright.
|
Posted By: Bounty Hunter
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2011 at 4:38pm
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/boats-marine/motorboats/auction-319691081.htm - http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/boats-marine/motorboats/auction-319691081.htm hustler with a cabin - if you could get this for say $15k i might be alright ------------- No disintegrations! |
Posted By: Moki Marko
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2011 at 6:36pm
|
yeah - that hustler with a cabin - thats gotta tick all the boxes?? The V98 haines comes close but those sea nymph hulls are an awsomely seaworthy confidence inspiring family safetying thing. Just Loooove that Bertram though - look at that deeeeeep V - and they are built strong as. That deep v just eats the chop - but they do soak up the horsepower, 200 would be a minimum and the white motors are worth nothing - absolutely nothing. I like your thinking loryda, just don't chicken out and buy a tin can!! |
Posted By: CanadianJohn
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2011 at 8:48pm
| there was a beautiful sea nymph explorer for sale not long back with a just out of warranty honda 150. the guy had just put 3g worth of brakes on the trailer. i think he was looking for $24,000, not sure if it sold. |
Posted By: Raging Bull
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2011 at 9:39pm
|
Thought about a Billfisher? Most of those boats your looking at are really going to suck the juice! |
Posted By: loryda
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2011 at 12:22am
|
That Explorer looks pretty good, could scrub up nice at a good price me thinks. Do loove the Sea Nymph's and had many awesome times on my Gullwing, always trusted it and went many miles on her in utter confidence.. hrrmm, something to think about. Moki - That Bertram is Boss mate, frickin awesome looking but the gas would kill me, def need a repower. Apparently been for sale for ages (or so my mate says) but at that price would of thought it would go pretty quick..  Consensus around the lion reds tonight were the running costs keeping potential suitors at bay but im still not 100% convinced everything is above board here.. In that sort of tone theres also this... http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/boats-marine/motorboats/auction-403471197.htm - http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/boats-marine/motorboats/auction-403471197.htm Not sure what those 175 Suzi's are like, this also been for sale for awhile now, the aesthetics arnt really a worry for me, happy to do glass work and have many a boatbuilder as friends with mad skills.. which gives a few options as to what you could do with it. CJ - Will keep an eye out for them, they seem like a reasonable option if a little softbait limited. You figured out what your doing on this front yet? RB - Certainly have, the models i like however (read: larger) are out of my price range unfortunately. This is in budget but i know sfa about them beside the brand and they just look, well, very light.. http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/boats-marine/motorboats/auction-401111213.htm - http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/boats-marine/motorboats/auction-401111213.htm Yes the juice sucking does suck  and if i could avoid it i would, but the wants list overpowers the rational one for the time being, there is always these options though.. http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/boats-marine/motorboats/auction-403115909.htm - http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/boats-marine/motorboats/auction-403115909.htm or http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/boats-marine/motorboats/auction-403026549.htm - http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/boats-marine/motorboats/auction-403026549.htm if i could stretch the budget or get my bargaining pants on.. http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=403212457 - http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=403212457 or maybe.. http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=401597492 - http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=401597492  It never ends... Cheers Alex.
------------- "We all pay for life with death, so everything in between should be free." -Bill Hicks |
Posted By: Raging Bull
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2011 at 6:42am
|
Yeah, that billfisher is not really a "billfisher", i cant understand why they branded it a billfisher when it is a different style of boat. The 2008 (now called a 635) or a 237 (now a 720) are what you want. I had a 2008 which i sold for 36k, they do come up cheaper than that depending on condition. The ones on trademe at the moment are dreamers! Here are some photos of my old one, it was a 1993 2008 with a 96 175 yammy, was a great boat, couldn't fault it.
|
Posted By: Moki Marko
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2011 at 8:37am
|
thats a nice boat RB - what did you replace that with? - mite be a bit outside lorydas budget. I think the Bertram is harder to sell here because they are relatively unknown - but they have a pedigree that is undeniable - bit like turning up to a motorcycle rally on a Vincent. Noticed a cheaper Berty on TM that has nicer looking topsides - if yo could get that for 12 - 15k then look at a repower you would have a wicked rig. Although those super deep V hulls can get a bit tender at rest, mite be a consideration for family fishing, take one for a trial - That Donzi looks nice but the fact that it originally had 300hp on it is a big hint as to how much HP it needs. Any smugglers for sale at the mo? Looking is half the fun dude - |
Posted By: loryda
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2011 at 10:52am
|
RB - That looks the shiz, would be ideeeaaal, i see afew on TM but all outside of budget at the moment, best believe if i find one within range it will be near the top of my list.
Moki - Are you talking about this one.. http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/boats-marine/motorboats/auction-398300296.htm - http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/boats-marine/motorboats/auction-398300296.htm ??
I Agree re the Donzi but would be interested to see how that 175 pushes it along at the moment and what could go on the back instead, how much of a mission and costs involved in putting a inboard diesel inside her (just throwing it out there / have no real idea on this side of things)
Also seen afew Bertrams on some yank sites for very cheap with the doller the way it is at the moment, might be different story when it comes time to buy something but would be curious to see/hear from anyone who has brought a boat in recently as the the shipping costs etc, if it is worthwhile investigating.
Another option would be a Yamaha boat from the land of the rising sun, neighbour has one in dry stack that looks great but have never been out on, would be interesting to see how these peformed in our waters as seem good bang for the buck.
Not a huge fan of Reef Runner Smugglers TBH..
Cheers
Alex. ------------- "We all pay for life with death, so everything in between should be free." -Bill Hicks |
Posted By: YellowV198
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2011 at 4:46pm
150 HPDI super economical but to be honest we have never worried about the fuel because we wanna go fishing.  Its also bloody well set up thanks to geoff @ Runabout, hes a fussy ******* who moved the motor thru 3 positions till he was happy and it runs so well. We have done the odd fuel burn guessing game. We filled up before leaving from Taka one day and went from there to waiheke, then to rakino out to the noises and back, the trip home was very slow due to some seriously rough weather that came up we came home at out 15 knots from memory. We filled up on the way home for $75 bucks but this was at least two summers ago so fuel has moved allot since then but that HPDI is super economical. I run at roughly 34-4200rpm generally which gives us between 28 and 36knots and it just cruises along happy as a pig in s#*t. No need to run maximum rpm as your just wear it out and suck fuel which hurts your wallet in two ways  more than happy to take you for a spin when I get back from overseas but thats 3 weeks away so im sure you will have madea decision by then but I have this 198 out and about allot and its a very tidy boat. http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/boats-marine/motorboats/auction-395552969.htm I love the v198's but I do have a spot for the billfishers as well very nice and that fine entry bow its fantastic! Simon |
Posted By: loryda
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2011 at 5:22pm
|
Hi Simon
Cheers for the info mate, muchly appreciated!
Those figures sound pretty good, definatly abit better than i was being told yesterday (obviously different boat, different motor etc etc) but gives me some hope
Would be pretty keen to take you up on the offer, as i said im a fair way away from being able to buy at this stage, just sold house, need to find new one, buy truck again, meet the inlaws etc etc
 Interestingly enough that Pist'n broke V198 is sitting on my watchlist at the moment, the name makes me slightly worried though..
 Also seen afew of these in price range but not sure what they are like.. ?
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=402845698 - http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=402845698
Like the idea of a 4 stroke! but again the boats look light to me..
And then there is this beast..
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=403821318 - http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=403821318
 So much to see and think about!
Cheers again guys, really appreciate all the info coming out here, biggest thing ive ever bought (thus far) so want to do all my homework.
Alex. ------------- "We all pay for life with death, so everything in between should be free." -Bill Hicks |
Posted By: YellowV198
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2011 at 6:42pm
|
I have heard nasty nasty things about those volvo legs...... and you should ask that guy about the name as I have seen it being towed without a motor on the back once.... the lightnings are nice but small cockpit space to me......
|
Posted By: Moki Marko
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2011 at 7:26pm
|
at some stage you will have to start narrowing things down a bit - i'd start by deleting any inboards from your list - the maintenance would kill ya - and that Figlass lightning is a nice boat but underpowered. I think YV98s setup is good - a good solid glass boat with a modern motor - that explorer is really looking better all the time - with a modern V6 it would be a great rig, good color too. |
Posted By: Bossco
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2011 at 9:30pm
|
Huge variety of boats there....In some of the older ones I reckon fuel burn would be the least of your worries, the main cost is going to be the maintenance and repairs. Like Moki says I'd really stay clear of those older inboards unless your pretty clued up, no advantages economy wise to a modern outboard and your looking at a huge loss of cockpit space on a boat that size. Personally if your doing alot of solo launching & retreiving, going out wide, worried about fuel burn, reliability and safety, I'd go for a 2nd hand 5.5 metre Surtees or similar with a modern outboard. |
Posted By: loryda
Date Posted: 02 Sep 2011 at 11:18am
|
Hi Guys
Cheers again for the info.
Simon - after further investigation you are correct sir, that boat appears to have a bit of a rep behind it (not a good one, couldnt get the good oil but got told to staay away..) in the end its pretty far removed from what i want anyway but that hull looked like it could take some serious water/peaked my interest.
The lightning looked interesting as reasonably new, four stroke and within budget but after looking further they do seem to have sfa space as you mentioned..
Moki - Seem alot of them come with the 115hp, standard kit i imagine?
You are correct, need to narrow down the list again, getting abit out there but love looking and evaluating the options, have afew in my head i like the idea of but need to do more homework. Agree re the V198 being a good bet, but do very much like that Bertram 20 for 21k (expired listing now), especially if i can get a newer donk on the back. And want to find out more about the Glasscraft with the diesel inboard (realise the maintenance etc but have a couple diesel mechanic friends who can help on this front), just imagining the miles i could do on her...
Still thinking Trophy though....
 Bossco - Too true, not a huge fan of Ali boats overall finish however, especially if wanting to take the missus overnighting every-now-and-then. Plus have no skills when it comes to Ali however some experiance with Glass. Do agree with you on all the plus points for them however, just not my cup of tea i think (saying that ive never been on a workmate though, may need to take a better look before i discount the possibility entirely)
Cheers again. ------------- "We all pay for life with death, so everything in between should be free." -Bill Hicks |
Posted By: pland
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2011 at 10:07am
|
Good thread this ... just popped mine on TM http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=404871290 - http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=404871290
------------- pland |
Posted By: hookerpuka
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2011 at 10:38am
|
Lordya I have a 2002 trophy. It all come down to what you want out of a boat. Mine has served me well is stable on the water and always feels safe. Mine runs a 200 merc, full rollered trailer etc. I have game fished way out back in it. but predominantly it gets used for Jigging, Stick baits and softbaiting. I love the walk around and as long as your not a muppet they are perfectly safe . Not so crash hot for bar crossings etc though. Towing is fun.. boat weighs around 2000kg with 1/3 tank of fuel and no gear (320l tank)... this is across the scales at VTNZ not just something someone once told me... So heavy to pull and not so ideal for beach launching on anything other than very firm beaches. The other thing I think they could have done better would be the under floor fish bins... there not deep enough so makes a chilly bin an essential. those bins are a good option for snapper or bait though. All in All I love my boat. it has served me well for the last 4 years. it has got me home from the Mokes a couple of times in absolute crud conditions. and it suits my needs to the ground... Shares in BP are an essential though for towing and for using :D |
Posted By: loryda
Date Posted: 05 Sep 2011 at 11:18am
|
pland - yours looks sweeeeeet, how i wish i had the monies now! (goes to check his lotto ticket)
Good luck with the sale.
 Hookerpuka - They certainly look heavy, not too worried about this though as will be buying a Truck to suit (ideally 13bt landcruiser - although also looking at 2.8l hilux - slow but will get the job done). Sounds like your use will be simular to mine, jigging, softbaits, the occasional strayline and every now and then heading out the back to troll lures. Never really cross bars unless its a perfect day (kiapara). Whats your average fuel burn with the 200 merc? (just curious)
Cheers Again Guys
Alex. ------------- "We all pay for life with death, so everything in between should be free." -Bill Hicks |
Posted By: hookerpuka
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2011 at 3:43pm
| Lets just say you don't get much change from 100ltrs in a days Normal fishing. what its is per hour I couldn't honestly tell you, looking for fish is more of a priority :D. Most of what we do would be considered long range for most, with the average distance to allot of our spots being 20nm or more round trip + usage whilst there, the engine never or rarely gets shut off. Also a later model 4stroke would make it considerably cheaper to run. |
Posted By: bigbite
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2013 at 12:57am
|
what cat are 2052 < ="RDVideo" ="application/x-rn-downloaderpepperflashvideoshim-plugin" ="" width="300" height="150" -offsetleft="122" -offsettop="2"> < ="application/x-dap-" id="DAPPlugin" style="visibility: collapse">
|