Winter Albies?
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Topic: Winter Albies?
Posted By: Dave775
Subject: Winter Albies?
Date Posted: 17 Aug 2011 at 11:16pm
| Has anyone got any info on winter Albies around Mayor/Aldermans? I have herd of guys getting big albies out of TGA last year during winter but it seems to be a slim few out chasing them? |
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Posted By: Marligator
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2011 at 6:21am
| Dave, I was talking to Mark Armstead (Extreme Sportfishing Charters) the other day and he had heard of somebody seeing some on the Penguin Rises a couple of weeks ago, although none were caught. |
Posted By: Plonker
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2011 at 8:23am
| picked up some Skippies off the Garden patch a week back, water was 16.5 D |
Posted By: mangre 2
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2011 at 9:42am
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alot to do with the length of the day, mid september seems to be the time ------------- Beautiful is better than ugly, Explicit is better than implicit, Simple is better than complex, Complex is better than complicated. http://oceanmobilemap.blogspot.co.nz/ |
Posted By: Fishb8
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2011 at 9:47am
Hi Kurt - good to see someone out there giving it a go!! ------------- Be yourself; everyone else is already taken |
Posted By: Dave775
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2011 at 10:21am
| Cheers, Im heading out to Mayor early next week so might take the gear out just incase |
Posted By: six guns
Date Posted: 18 Aug 2011 at 4:26pm
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all I can say is thay are there... ------------- skull draging and taging |
Posted By: danjer
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2011 at 8:15am
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Got a couple of albies off the Cavalli seamount Sat night. Water was 14d. No skippies. Got a heap of skippies off Queens bouy couple weeks back. Anyone heard much on the Swords? We have done a few nights lately but not a bite. Went out to 1000m Sat night, Fu*ken froze
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Posted By: campbellc
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2011 at 11:34am
| Hoping to try the Mayor Knolls for sword's on Friday. Fingers crossed there is still some there |
Posted By: Wind Up
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2011 at 12:32pm
| Good on you Danjer - you wont catch one if you're sitting on your couch - surely would have been cold though |
Posted By: Woodrow
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2011 at 3:55pm
| Were out on the northern end of Mayor on Saturday for a Puka drop, came across a couple of work ups of Albies, couldnt hook one for trying mind you abit hard when all the game gear is back home, but yep they sure are there. |
Posted By: Slick
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2011 at 6:40pm
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It looks like the albies are around from what people are saying but are they the small coke bottle size models?
Do we need to wait another few weeks for the big 15k+ models to turn up or are they around too?
Looking at heading down in the next few weeks and having a crack behind mayor as well on 4-10kg outfits
------------- People say if fishing was easy then it would be called catching, I say these people who say that obviously had a bad day's fishing. |
Posted By: mangre 2
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2011 at 7:06pm
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Research done by Niwi for the albacore troll fishery showed
best day length 9-11hrs then tapering of, then increasing again with day lengths of between 13-15hrs.
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Posted By: Slick
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2011 at 8:36pm
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http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/astronomy.html?n=2094&month=8&year=2011&obj=sun&afl=-11&day=1 -
Just found this site that might be of interest
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/astronomy.html?n=2094&month=8&year=2011&obj=sun&afl=-11&day= ------------- People say if fishing was easy then it would be called catching, I say these people who say that obviously had a bad day's fishing. |
Posted By: Blue Asparagus
Date Posted: 22 Aug 2011 at 9:47pm
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wont be long now, I will be going out for a look at the 60mile grounds and see what's about, from the talk in the club the 500m line would be well worth the effort. Seems the coms boys are doing rather well ------------- Ultimate GAME Fishing Adventures. Northland |
Posted By: *stu*
Date Posted: 24 Aug 2011 at 7:51pm
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Woodrow wrote:Posted By: Plonker
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2011 at 9:18am
Where have you been hiding Slick |
Posted By: Raptor 650
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2011 at 4:03pm
| Ive just been down at Sandfords Tauranga and they had some 15kg+ Albies in their display. Talking to the one guys out the back they apparently have caught heaps of that size in the last few days between Mayor and White so it may well be worth a look out the knolls this weekend with a mint forecast. |
Posted By: Slick
Date Posted: 25 Aug 2011 at 7:56pm
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Hey Plonker, Havn't been hiding anywhere special
 just working hard as you do to earn a buck and not fishing any where enough for my liking.------------- People say if fishing was easy then it would be called catching, I say these people who say that obviously had a bad day's fishing. |
Posted By: six guns
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2011 at 12:04am
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Like I said thay r there let's stop talking start killing them ------------- skull draging and taging |
Posted By: Fishb8
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2011 at 4:55pm
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I saw a skippie for sale as bait at our local fishmonger - it was big but $22!!! ------------- Be yourself; everyone else is already taken |
Posted By: mark c
Date Posted: 26 Aug 2011 at 7:30pm
| we saw a school or some kind of tuna, couldnt tell if they were skippys or albys, inside of astrolabe 2 weeks ago. couldnt get a hook in one though |
Posted By: Merlin the marlin
Date Posted: 31 Aug 2011 at 9:55pm
| I'm pretty sure the surface liners are getting a few around that 20- 22 kilo bracket at the moment. |
Posted By: Slick
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2011 at 8:25pm
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Looks like there may be a weather window for middle of next week so hoping it doesnt change so we can go have a crack behind mayor for some of those xxos albies.
Would love to have a crack at some puka and blue nose too but our sounder seems to only have a range of 200mtrs so I think that might be a bit hard when you cant see whats under you.
Could they come into that depth behind mayor at this time of year? ------------- People say if fishing was easy then it would be called catching, I say these people who say that obviously had a bad day's fishing. |
Posted By: Merlin the marlin
Date Posted: 01 Sep 2011 at 10:14pm
| http://www.seasurface.co.nz - www.seasurface.co.nz |
Posted By: camdog
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2011 at 7:12pm
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Anyone had a go off mayor in the last few days? Going to have a go at some albys mon, tues, weds. Anyone know what depths, temps to look at? ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Dave775
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2011 at 8:44pm
From looking at the sst maps i would say 300-500m, That was a few days ago now though. Water looks warmer closer in the further north you go. I was hoping to get out later this week but weather doesnt look like it will hold out. Let us know how you get on. |
Posted By: Blue Asparagus
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2011 at 9:00pm
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just waiting for my electronics to come back and I will go wide for a look, i will run the canyons and see what is available. will run medium size lures as you never know what is lurking. ------------- Ultimate GAME Fishing Adventures. Northland |
Posted By: Merlin the marlin
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2011 at 9:44pm
You are right there Steve. Anyone up North targeting the bigeye? There is so much opportunity in New Zealand for recreational anglers. Theweekend warriors just have to put in the time and the effort .On a serious note though, they are up there.
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Posted By: camdog
Date Posted: 03 Sep 2011 at 9:52pm
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should i be takeing 50s or 80s? ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Slick
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2011 at 7:56am
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Cam dog keep an eye out for a 522 Bonito called Merci, we are heading down today for a crack behind the mercs now instead of Mayor as the water is definately warmer the further north you go.
Taking an 80W with me, like you say you never know what you might get
 Slick ------------- People say if fishing was easy then it would be called catching, I say these people who say that obviously had a bad day's fishing. |
Posted By: Plonker
Date Posted: 04 Sep 2011 at 6:05pm
Hey Ben I know of one of northlands top boats how would love to head out for a 3 day/2 night tuna chum up and troll. Just need 4 anglers  |
Posted By: camdog
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2011 at 12:37pm
well we put in a solid effort and didnt see any signs of life in the deep water.Put the lures in at 100m and went out to the 500m line then trolled south of mayor then out a bit deeper. lots of albatross and mollymawks but no tuna. trolled lures across to slipper on the way home the next day while watching 4 sainers working the area . nice weather tho------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Merlin the marlin
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2011 at 2:05pm
| The seiners are targeting blue mackeral at the moment. They were around the Alderman's for a while a couple of weeks ago. |
Posted By: TIN RIB
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2011 at 3:31pm
| Was out behind Great Barrier yesterday on the 110m mark and we saw albacore jumping around but they weren't the big winter models. |
Posted By: Blue Asparagus
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2011 at 7:53pm
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depending on the weather I will go for a look over the weekend, anyone else keen to tag along let us know. ------------- Ultimate GAME Fishing Adventures. Northland |
Posted By: Saltiga
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2011 at 8:39pm
| been Skippys round up our way, neighbour got some in the weekend no albies tho |
Posted By: Slick
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2011 at 9:04pm
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We had a good look behind Red merc on Tuesday, put lures in on the edge of the ammo dumping ground which is the 500mtr mark and headed out to the Mercury knoll 1000+ mtrs, best temp we had all day was 16.8, didnt see a thing apart from a lone seal at the knoll that seemed to be a bit lost.
Took the 80w with me and ran that all day in hope of a southern or big eye.
Was good to get out, shame the albies or southerns wernt around.
Still came home with scollies, Snapps & crays so wasnt a complete failure
 Slick ------------- People say if fishing was easy then it would be called catching, I say these people who say that obviously had a bad day's fishing. |
Posted By: Blue Asparagus
Date Posted: 08 Sep 2011 at 9:10pm
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what lures have you guys been running, size etc. ------------- Ultimate GAME Fishing Adventures. Northland |
Posted By: camdog
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2011 at 7:48am
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small zukers, ceder plug, brass jet heads and a few little skippy numbers just in case ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Marligator
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2011 at 9:12am
| BA - I would get hold of a couple of Rapala CD14's or 11"s they are deadly on those Albies, also daisy chains are great as well. We make our own daisy chain, with a hexhead at the back and 3 or 4 three inch squid skirts spread about 18 inches apart held in place with a flattened half ounce sinker (the sinkers fit up inside the skirt nicely, a cheap and very effective daisy chain. |
Posted By: Dave775
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2011 at 2:38pm
| I am hoping to get out behind the Aldies tomorrow, weather is looking mint. Marligator do you run a daisy chain in front of each lure? |
Posted By: Marligator
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2011 at 6:34pm
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Dave, No we typically would run one daisy chain, and another single lure on the long lures and two rapalas short. With the daisy chain I talked about above the hook is in the hexhead, with the diasy chain it is good to use a heavier metal type lure (the one with the hook in it) which runs just below the surface. Typically we use 4, 6 or 8 kg line, but last year tried 3 kg and will do again this year if they turn up and it is calm enough. I do not believe you need to go any heavier than 8 kg for any of the albies we get here and we have got them up around 20 kg and on 6 or 8 kg line they never take more than about 15 minutes. 3 and 4 kg is a different proposition, they will take much longer, the 12.2 kg one I got on 3 last year took 3 hours but that was the most stubborn fish I have seen. The other thing is that if you are in a small boat I suggest that you only use 3 and 4 if it is really calm, otherwise the wind will blow you off the fish as the fight is straight up and down for most of the fight and on such light line it is very difficult to dictate to the fish once it is settled.
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Posted By: fitty
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2011 at 6:40pm
| Marligator and I generally fishing line weight 6kg or less.Rapalas are run without a daisy chain set up.Hexheads are usually run with a few plastic squids in front.When you time it right and they are pushing bait to the surface they tend to go for most types of lures.It was reasonably common to have hits on all lures in the spread(up to 4 lines)!!With ultralight line(3 or 4kg) we would only have two lines in the water. Hope this helps. |
Posted By: karm
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2011 at 6:19pm
| any news on the Tauranga Tuna Tourny |
Posted By: Double Shot
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2011 at 6:41pm
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Looks like the boys on Sanity with Tobez got a couple of beauts on jigs today...great looking fish at 18kg and 23kg...
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Posted By: Blue Asparagus
Date Posted: 11 Sep 2011 at 8:20pm
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sounds good Craig, look forward to the picks etc ------------- Ultimate GAME Fishing Adventures. Northland |
Posted By: Strictly fishing
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2011 at 8:17am
Team Strictly fishing ventured out on sat and sun chasing albacore off mayor island.We had a double strike 2.5miles of the mayor in 160m on sun and landed 1 of the 2.Great to see some albacore at last and in good condition.I hope its the start of a good run of these tuna in the bay.. Stuarts albacore tuna caught on 24kg line -------------  |
Posted By: Capt Asparagus
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2011 at 8:26am
| Very nice albie.... if held somewhat awkwardly for sizing purposes :-) Very good pic though. What size was it? It'd have to be 20 or so? |
Posted By: daveo
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2011 at 8:29am
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F&*k me thats a big albie! ------------- http://www.legasea.co.nz" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Strictly fishing
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2011 at 8:51am
It weighed in at 17.9kg Capt Asparagus and was the winning fish in the tuna section for the albacore/puka comp out of tga. Unfortunately the other fish we lost at the boat was a much bigger model. ------------- |
Posted By: Dave775
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2011 at 10:13am
| Choice, Lets hope they hang around for a bit longer |
Posted By: Slick
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2011 at 10:15am
Nice fish  ,
looks like I was a week to early for the albies, bugga it  ------------- People say if fishing was easy then it would be called catching, I say these people who say that obviously had a bad day's fishing. |
Posted By: six guns
Date Posted: 12 Sep 2011 at 7:43pm
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wicked fish boys well done. ------------- skull draging and taging |
Posted By: jonocoogee
Date Posted: 19 Sep 2011 at 9:40pm
| Any word of albies lately? Looking to get out later this week from tauranga. |
Posted By: Mercy
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2011 at 2:15pm
| We are heading out for a look as well jonocoogee. Leaving Whanga on Friday morning, staying at Mayor and coming back in on Saturday arvo. Boat name is Merci. |
Posted By: jonocoogee
Date Posted: 20 Sep 2011 at 6:39pm
| Cool, looks like we will be heading to plate area, heard the albies have been a bit hard so just off for hopeflly some kingies and a feed of terrahs. Good luck to ya though! |
Posted By: Dave775
Date Posted: 21 Sep 2011 at 1:20pm
| I went out of whangamata on Sunday up to Aldies, worked between 150m - 220m straight behind with no luck, was a bit rough so called it quits |
Posted By: karm
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2011 at 11:52am
| Any one caught any albies lately off Mayor/Aldermans ? |
Posted By: Slick
Date Posted: 28 Sep 2011 at 8:15pm
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Slayer went wide last friday behind Mayor for zilch, even the snappa fishing was crap he tells me, they stayed overnight at mayor and all the boys came home with was 4 snapps and 2 teras. long long way for not much. Still big ups for putting in the miles and giving it a go.
Slick ------------- People say if fishing was easy then it would be called catching, I say these people who say that obviously had a bad day's fishing. |
Posted By: huntaway.tom
Date Posted: 29 Sep 2011 at 12:09pm
| went out for a puka fish past cuvier yesterday, there was alot of sign up there (birds working, dolphins) we were just on a meat mission so didnt bother having a go, but im sure there were albies there, the whole area seemed very fishy. |
Posted By: karm
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2011 at 1:48pm
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We went out behind Mayor on Thurs ...got a nice ably but only 5kg ... at about 300m mark water 15.5' We thought we were "into them" & got very excited and kept heading out wide but that was all we "saw" ...very quiet, no birds no workups except a few ky workups back towards shore 50 -60m beaut day , but a tad disappointing
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Posted By: Merlin the marlin
Date Posted: 02 Oct 2011 at 3:01pm
| Good stuff. Milan, Nikojai and i heading out for a look next week. This Northeast blow hopefully will bring them in as they are out wide at the moment. |
Posted By: mangre 2
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2011 at 9:52am
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Should get another run of Albacore, in the the next couple of weeks.
14hr days 17+ temp.... ------------- Beautiful is better than ugly, Explicit is better than implicit, Simple is better than complex, Complex is better than complicated. http://oceanmobilemap.blogspot.co.nz/ |
Posted By: six guns
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2011 at 5:43pm
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seen some on sat by the time we got the gear in could not find them ------------- skull draging and taging |
Posted By: mangre 2
Date Posted: 27 Oct 2011 at 6:21pm
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They are there alright, but statistics say the albacore longline catch more around the length of day 14hrs Iam only going on what I have read. full moon is around that time as well, 17.5 c out there behind the knights. I suppose try and get al the favorable conditions linening up, and give it a go. Never know if a YFT or Big Eye jump on your line eh. ------------- Beautiful is better than ugly, Explicit is better than implicit, Simple is better than complex, Complex is better than complicated. http://oceanmobilemap.blogspot.co.nz/ |